[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by rustyp

.......Martin Shkreli, the CEO who raised the price of a lifesaving drug for a rare disease, from $13.50 to $750 a dose, so his company could maximize profits. I say not ethical but legal.
Martin got arrested for a ponzi scheme that raised money to purchase the drug company. He did not get arrested for raising the price of the drug......

Ultimately your company will pay a price if it continually does not behave ethically be it lose of customers or employees or call enough attention to yourself the skeleton in the closet search begins.

By citing that unusually outlandish, charlatan example, you're lumping the charlatan and TV developers together. There is NO comparison.

Firstly, KB's is not a lifesaving product.

Secondly, if it were, it would not be something needed by nor geared toward everybody in the community. It would only be of interest to a small fraction of the population with that condition/disease--amongst various meds prescribed for it.

Thirdly, any price increase at KB's is going to be mitigated by an improved venue, seating, food quality and atmosphere. TV knows how much people here are willing to pay and none of the country clubs here have outlandish prices.

KB's needed some new life injected into it and that's what they have done. To those who loathe businesses making a profit and who call that 'GREED': Get over it.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

By citing that unusually outlandish, charlatan example, you're lumping the charlatan and TV developers together. There is NO comparison.

Firstly, KB's is not a lifesaving product.

Secondly, if it were, it would not be something needed by nor geared toward everybody in the community. It would only be of interest to a small fraction of the population with that condition/disease--amongst various meds prescribed for it.

Thirdly, any price increase at KB's is going to be mitigated by an improved venue, seating, food quality and atmosphere. TV knows how much people here are willing to pay and none of the country clubs here have outlandish prices.

KB's needed some new life injected into it and that's what they have done. Get over it.

If you read the post I never put the developer in the same category as the charlatan. I was making a point that the developer has the right to do what they want. Correct legally. It was purposely an outlandish example to illustrate difference between legal and ethical.

Get over it ? I was never under it. My choice in this particular case is go or not go to Katie Belle's. That's for me to decide no one else.

But I assure you I am over this now

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by rustyp

If you read the post I never put the developer in the same category as the charlatan. I was making a point that the developer has the right to do what they want. Correct legally. It was purposely an outlandish example to illustrate difference between legal and ethical.

Get over it ? I was never under it. My choice in this particular case is go or not go to Katie Belle's. That's for me to decide no one else.

But I assure you I am over this now

I should have said "To those who loathe businesses making a profit and who call that 'GREED'", get over it. Will edit that. Was not intended for you specifically.

[dillywho]

#1..It's called business.

#2..Business does not equal greed.

#3..Even if greed were in the equation, why would our amenity fees, etc. be as reasonable as they are?

Seems like people from all walks of life just have a tendency to get spoiled and change just does not come easy.

For all the naysayers, if the new Katie Belle's flops, are you being personally financially hurt or are the Developers? I don't know of anyone else here who has taken the chance, bought the land and then developed it, and hoped that it would succeed. We all have choices which businesses to patronize or not, just as we all had the choice to move here in the first place. We were told about the fees, restrictions, etc. at the time we put our names on the dotted lines of our contract. We knew exactly what was what. If we made a mistake, then it was ours....not The Villages. It is the same thing for them if KB is not successful; their mistake, not ours. (By the way, we didn't make a mistake.) Is everything perfect? Of course not, but show me anywhere else that comes as close.

The ONLY thing they did not include in the listing of all the various activities available to us is the one MAJOR activity of which many of us must partake....going from doctor to doctor to doctor! Not my favorite, but the only one I consider mandatory!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by dillywho

#1..It's called business.

#2..Business does not equal greed.

#3..Even if greed were in the equation, why would our amenity fees, etc. be as reasonable as they are?

Seems like people from all walks of life just have a tendency to get spoiled and change just does not come easy.

For all the naysayers, if the new Katie Belle's flops, are you being personally financially hurt or are the Developers? I don't know of anyone else here who has taken the chance, bought the land and then developed it, and hoped that it would succeed. We all have choices which businesses to patronize or not, just as we all had the choice to move here in the first place. We were told about the fees, restrictions, etc. at the time we put our names on the dotted lines of our contract. We knew exactly what was what. If we made a mistake, then it was ours....not The Villages. It is the same thing for them if KB is not successful; their mistake, not ours. (By the way, we didn't make a mistake.) Is everything perfect? Of course not, but show me anywhere else that comes as close.

The ONLY thing they did not include in the listing of all the various activities available to us is the one MAJOR activity of which many of us must partake....going from doctor to doctor to doctor! Not my favorite, but the only one I consider mandatory!

Excellent post. EXCELLENT post.

[mulligan]

The one business principle I have never seen used on this forum applies, IMHO. "Grow or die" seems to apply to all businesses (think MacDonald's menu).

[kittygilchrist]

Heavens to Betsy, what a messy thread!
His name is Gutfeld, not Outfield.

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[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Heavens to Betsy, what a messy thread!
His name is Gutfeld, not Outfield.

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Are they going to Katie Belle's which would somewhat tie into this thread.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Are they going to Katie Belle's which would somewhat tie into this thread.

Well, if they do go to Katie Belles, I'll bet they would have enjoyed the old Katie Belles more. [insert winking emoticon reading a New York Times best seller]

[brovelli]

Hi.. Went to Katie Belles for 6:30 dinner on Sat. night. The lady taking reservations on the phone was far from kind and friendly, but finally got it straightened out ..(3:30-5:30 is open seating for their happy hour, limited menu, 1/2 price drinks,)
If you are doing a Villagers reservation, you can make a reservation for a DINING TABLE for $3.00/ person, on a credit card. (non-residents pay $5.00 ea.) The show table thing is closer to the stage and more expensive.. depending on the entertainment..
Anyway.
When we checked in, we took notice of the decore and seating... beautifully done (no surprise, the Villages does it right all the time with regards to theme.)
Also, we discovered the best tables are where the original seating overlooking the old Katie Belle stage...(People are calling this the sunrise and sunset tables.)
The tables are not tight, by the windows, and far enough from the stage not to have the music distract you from conversation. (The sunset tables actually have a tv hung to see the band.)
We had a wonderful meal (although it is not inexpensive..but very very good.) Service was excellent. I was prepared not to like it (We did not love the Cattle baron rest.) but we were pleasantly surprised. We look forward to going again.

[Skip]

Originally Posted by brovelli

Hi.. Went to Katie Belles for 6:30 dinner on Sat. night. The lady taking reservations on the phone was far from kind and friendly, but finally got it straightened out ..(3:30-5:30 is open seating for their happy hour, limited menu, 1/2 price drinks,)
If you are doing a Villagers reservation, you can make a reservation for a DINING TABLE for $3.00/ person, on a credit card. (non-residents pay $5.00 ea.) The show table thing is closer to the stage and more expensive.. depending on the entertainment..
Anyway.
When we checked in, we took notice of the decore and seating... beautifully done (no surprise, the Villages does it right all the time with regards to theme.)
Also, we discovered the best tables are where the original seating overlooking the old Katie Belle stage...(People are calling this the sunrise and sunset tables.)
The tables are not tight, by the windows, and far enough from the stage not to have the music distract you from conversation. (The sunset tables actually have a tv hung to see the band.)
We had a wonderful meal (although it is not inexpensive..but very very good.) Service was excellent. I was prepared not to like it (We did not love the Cattle baron rest.) but we were pleasantly surprised. We look forward to going again.

So it costs two couples, $12 total to reserve a single table for 4. Non-residents would pay $20 for that same table. Wow! That'll keep the riff-raff out.

Skip

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Skip

So it costs two couples, $12 total to reserve a single table for 4. Non-residents would pay $20 for that same table. Wow! That'll keep the riff-raff out.

Skip

"TV, where every millionaire can live like a...well, a millionaire."

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by outlaw

"TV, where every millionaire can live like a...well, a millionaire."

That's true. There are places to spend, but you don't need to, do you?

That's the Village difference.

[TomOB]

This post has outlived it's useful time, in my humble opinion.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by TomOB

This post has outlived it's useful time, in my humble opinion.

Humble opinions are never typed out.