Lightning caused house fires

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-16-2015, 08:08 PM
GMIJFI GMIJFI is offline
Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 51
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts
Default Lightning caused house fires

Just curious. Is there any reliable data on what percentage of homes that suffered damage from fires caused by a lightning strikes had lightning rods installed?
  #2  
Old 08-16-2015, 08:12 PM
manaboutown manaboutown is offline
Sage
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NJ, NM, SC, PA, DC, MD, VA, NY, CA, ID and finally FL.
Posts: 7,401
Thanks: 12,912
Thanked 4,596 Times in 1,759 Posts
Default

Probably just a few but no doubt many homes have experienced electrical outages and damage to electronics and appliances from nearby lightning strikes.
__________________
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Plato

“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” Thomas Paine
  #3  
Old 08-17-2015, 08:03 AM
Xcuse Xcuse is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 108
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMIJFI View Post
Just curious. Is there any reliable data on what percentage of homes that suffered damage from fires caused by a lightning strikes had lightning rods installed?
Couldn't find statistics but this presentation by the Villages Computer Club stated " it has been empirically
proven that a lightning protection system installed in
full conformance to
NFPA
-
780
requirements
DOES
prevent damage to structures."
  #4  
Old 08-17-2015, 01:03 PM
David Moon's Avatar
David Moon David Moon is offline
Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: The Villages
Posts: 53
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Seeing firsthand a fire from lightening a few months back, even if it decreases the odds of fire exponentially, it's a good thing to have.
Attached Thumbnails
The Villages Florida: Click image for larger version

Name:	11698583_10153395567551063_6787152283488436140_n.jpg
Views:	219
Size:	117.4 KB
ID:	54186  
  #5  
Old 08-18-2015, 08:40 AM
2BNTV's Avatar
2BNTV 2BNTV is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,712
Thanks: 1
Thanked 133 Times in 60 Posts
Default

To me, it's more of a peace of mind thing to me. I feel better knowing I did all I could to prevent damage than to wonder what might have been.
__________________
"It doesn't cost "nuttin", to be nice". MOM

I just want to do the right thing! Uncle Joe, (my hero).
  #6  
Old 08-18-2015, 10:36 AM
Lightning Lightning is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 202
Thanks: 0
Thanked 27 Times in 16 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMIJFI View Post
Just curious. Is there any reliable data on what percentage of homes that suffered damage from fires caused by a lightning strikes had lightning rods installed?
Last Saturday night a home in Miona Shores was stuck and the ensuing fire caused it to be uninhabitable. This is the fourth home this year and the seventh in the last 15 months that has received extensive damage due to a direct lightning strike. None had a lightning protection system (LPS) commonly called lightning rods. We have reports now from 14 homeowners with a LPS who have been struck without any structural damage or fire. To learn about LPS and related lightning issues consider enrolling in the Lifelong Learning College class,, Lightning Tips for Villagers, on August 27th or October 1st.
  #7  
Old 08-18-2015, 10:46 AM
jimbo2012's Avatar
jimbo2012 jimbo2012 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LI, NY >Fernandina South
Posts: 7,268
Thanks: 92
Thanked 173 Times in 98 Posts
Default

Anyone living in the "Lightning capital of the world" is remiss not to have a lightning protection system.

The Villages Florida
__________________
Nova Water filters
  #8  
Old 08-18-2015, 11:10 AM
twoplanekid's Avatar
twoplanekid twoplanekid is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: born Urbana,Il lived in Urbana Ohio for 65 years a house in Lake Deaton
Posts: 1,979
Thanks: 6
Thanked 683 Times in 280 Posts
Default

One question from an owner of a house south of 466A with no gas lines in the attic, have any of the new houses with no gas to the house had fires caused by lightning?
  #9  
Old 08-18-2015, 11:16 AM
outlaw outlaw is offline
Soaring Eagle member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,009
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twoplanekid View Post
One question from an owner of a house south of 466A with no gas lines in the attic, have any of the new houses with no gas to the house had fires caused by lightning?
The gas lines are not causing the fires. That would likely cause an explosion!
  #10  
Old 08-18-2015, 11:56 AM
Dan9871 Dan9871 is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 965
Thanks: 5
Thanked 157 Times in 99 Posts
Default

There was a Premiere with a 5 car garage near me in Pinellas last Sept?? that was totaled by a lightning caused fire. No one hurt but the house had to be rebuilt.


Quote:
Originally Posted by twoplanekid View Post
One question from an owner of a house south of 466A with no gas lines in the attic, have any of the new houses with no gas to the house had fires caused by lightning?
  #11  
Old 08-18-2015, 12:08 PM
Inexes@aol.com Inexes@aol.com is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 303
Thanks: 268
Thanked 188 Times in 75 Posts
Default

CSST is not able to withstand the electrical charge dissipated by lightning strikes due to its corrugated design and thin walls, according to reports. As a result, in the event that CSST becomes energized due to a direct or indirect lightning strike, the current will “arc” or jump across a gap to a less resistant pathway, such as nearby metal piping, in an attempt to reach the ground. Although the arc will only last a fraction of a second, it has been alleged that the temperature of the event is hot enough to melt and penetrate the thin walls of the CSST. If the gas line melts or is punctured, the gas inside can escape and cause a fire.

Our attorneys believe that the thin walls of CSST put properties at risk for fire-related damage. It is estimated that the walls of CSST measure at a mere .011 inches, 10 times thinner than the walls of traditional black iron pipes. It has been alleged that unlike CSST, the walls of traditional black iron pipes are generally thick enough to withstand the energy produced during a lightning strike. CSST was developed in the early 1980s in Japan and was introduced into the U.S. market as an easier-to-install alternative to black iron pipes in the 1990s.

- See more at: CSST Lawsuits | CSST Lightning Fires and Failures | Morgan & Morgan
  #12  
Old 08-18-2015, 08:12 PM
Lightning Lightning is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 202
Thanks: 0
Thanked 27 Times in 16 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twoplanekid View Post
One question from an owner of a house south of 466A with no gas lines in the attic, have any of the new houses with no gas to the house had fires caused by lightning?
Of the seven homes struck by lightning in the last 15 months 4 had gas and 3 were all electric homes. Lightning is random and unpredictable.
  #13  
Old 08-18-2015, 09:29 PM
twoplanekid's Avatar
twoplanekid twoplanekid is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: born Urbana,Il lived in Urbana Ohio for 65 years a house in Lake Deaton
Posts: 1,979
Thanks: 6
Thanked 683 Times in 280 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightning View Post
Of the seven homes struck by lightning in the last 15 months 4 had gas and 3 were all electric homes. Lightning is random and unpredictable.

Thanks for that information.

Would a fire suppression system be a better investment than a lightning protection system? Could a direct hit still start a fire with lightning protection installed?
  #14  
Old 08-19-2015, 02:53 PM
Lightning Lightning is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 202
Thanks: 0
Thanked 27 Times in 16 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twoplanekid View Post
Thanks for that information.

Would a fire suppression system be a better investment than a lightning protection system? Could a direct hit still start a fire with lightning protection installed?
Theoretically it would be possible to install an automatic fire sprinkler system throughout the home and the attic space. I don't know of cases where it has been done. It would be very expensive. If your concern is with lightning then you may wish to consider a lightning protection system that shuts a direct lightning strike directly to ground without starting a fire.
  #15  
Old 08-21-2015, 08:24 PM
rdhdleo rdhdleo is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago, Arlington Hgts, North Aurora, Il. TV since 2002!
Posts: 980
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Update on my experience with lightning rods. Shortly after we moved here 13 years ago the lightning started to freak me out. Stupidly a guy in a truck came around saying he had been installing lighting rods on some of our neighbors homes. Back then there weren't all these resources to find out more into and I was so paranoid, we said ok and had it done for $600. Since then with all these threads on it here and on Facebook I started questioning what we had done. Figuring it probably wasn't to code so today we had A1 Lightning protection come out and check it out. Yep not to code and actually dangerous they way it was done. (I have the gas lines in the attic) We called Triangle which people here have mentioned and I was pout off by the fact they would not come out and talk to us to check our system without charging us $150 to do so! They gave us a quote over trephine no even telling us what exactly they would do! A1 Lightning Protection came out at NO charge and inspected everything. Their quote to put in a new copper system including my birdcage and do proper grounding of everything $1550 less than what Triangle quoted on the phone. A1 said they could bring our current system up to code for $800 but we feel it's worth the extra money to go copper all the way (except for the birdcage which cannot be copper.) Just thought I would let everyone know in case your considering the rods.
Closed Thread

Tags
lightning, fires, caused, damage, suffered, strikes, installed, rods, homes, curious, house, percentage, data, reliable


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:59 AM.