[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

My feelings are not relevant. State ordered execution is legal premeditated murder. Innocent people have been released from death row when new evidence has been presented. Innocent people have been released from prison when new evidence has been presented. Since the 70's many possibly innocent people have been executed. Typically new evidence is submitted but not looked at after the execution because the defendant is dead.

Exactly.

I wish those who are so gung-ho about capital punishment, would just drop the pretense that is about 'justice'...when it is actually simply 'revenge.'

It really boils down to those of us who believe even one innocent person executed is one too many...and others who think it's just a 'cost of doing business.'

The fact that life without a chance of parole serves the same purpose and the fact that due to the legal appeals process for capital cases, executing them actually costs more than life without...proves that it is about revenge.


Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center

A new study by Lewis & Clark Law School and Seattle University that examined the costs of hundreds of aggravated murder and murder cases in Oregon has concluded that "maintaining the death penalty incurs a significant financial burden on Oregon taxpayers."

The researchers found that the average trial and incarceration costs of an Oregon murder case that results in a death penalty are almost double those in a murder case that results in a sentence of life imprisonment or a term of years.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Exactly.



I wish those who are so gung-ho about capital punishment, would just drop the pretense that is about 'justice'...when it is actually simply 'revenge.'



It really boils down to those of us who believe even one innocent person executed is one too many...and others who think it's just a 'cost of doing business.'



The fact that life without a chance of parole serves the same purpose and the fact that due to the legal appeals process for capital cases, executing them actually costs more than life without...proves that it is about revenge.





Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center

And there are those who long for the good ole' days of the electric chair and gas chamber. I couldn't stomach watching a person die this way, no matter what the offense was. And there are those who long for the day they could witness such an event just to watch what they hate die a writhing painful prolonged death. Afterwards a few drinks with their buddies so they can rehash more hate towards those who are different then their own tribe. Chemical injection was supposed to be a more civilized way to execute. Seems they can't get that right either. More drinks for the boys ! Another round for our tribe ! Drink to what made our country great ! Better him then me MFer !

[bbbbbb]

Hi, here is a thought on that. It seems there is repeated discussions and anomalies associated with the drugs used during an execution, it is too weak or too strong or not available or not approved, who knows?
The Mormons have it right on this one. About 1979 (+/-) they did Gary Gilmore in with a firing squad. The Sheriff in Salt Lake City put the word out that he wanted volunteers for that event. Well, on the day of the event, there was a line of volunteers in Salt Lake about a block long, all with their .30 cal rifles and ammo, ready to go. It was over in about 20 minutes, no problems, no lack of supplies to do the job. Painless, since the bullets are moving faster than the speed of sound Gary did not hear a thing. Sure there are the few who will take a shot at this, criticizing. Well, it is a fact, so I prefer not to hear from the opposition and will not respond.
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[plrbr1120]

One of the comments is to show compassion for these killers. Ok....here is my compassion....now put them 6 feet under.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by bbbbbb

Hi, here is a thought on that. It seems there is repeated discussions and anomalies associated with the drugs used during an execution, it is too weak or too strong or not available or not approved, who knows?
The Mormons have it right on this one. About 1979 (+/-) they did Gary Gilmore in with a firing squad. The Sheriff in Salt Lake City put the word out that he wanted volunteers for that event. Well, on the day of the event, there was a line of volunteers in Salt Lake about a block long, all with their .30 cal rifles and ammo, ready to go. It was over in about 20 minutes, no problems, no lack of supplies to do the job. Painless, since the bullets are moving faster than the speed of sound Gary did not hear a thing. Sure there are the few who will take a shot at this, criticizing. Well, it is a fact, so I prefer not to hear from the opposition and will not respond.
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Mormons ? Cultists.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by bbbbbb

Hi, here is a thought on that. It seems there is repeated discussions and anomalies associated with the drugs used during an execution, it is too weak or too strong or not available or not approved, who knows?
The Mormons have it right on this one. About 1979 (+/-) they did Gary Gilmore in with a firing squad. The Sheriff in Salt Lake City put the word out that he wanted volunteers for that event. Well, on the day of the event, there was a line of volunteers in Salt Lake about a block long, all with their .30 cal rifles and ammo, ready to go. It was over in about 20 minutes, no problems, no lack of supplies to do the job. Painless, since the bullets are moving faster than the speed of sound Gary did not hear a thing. Sure there are the few who will take a shot at this, criticizing. Well, it is a fact, so I prefer not to hear from the opposition and will not respond.
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Execution by firing squad - Wikipedia

It is probably more humane than lethal injection in Arkansas right now.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Execution by firing squad - Wikipedia



It is probably more humane than lethal injection in Arkansas right now.

Try it, let us know. Really ?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

Try it, let us know. Really ?

Makes no sense?

Topic started by me is Arkansas executions of seven people in next two weeks or so. Arkansas rushes to execute 7 inmates before lethal drug expires - CBS News

Firing squads are not legal in Arkansas as a method of execution as far as I know. Arkansas lawmaker will propose execution by firing squad - Washington Times

Methods of Execution | Death Penalty Information Center

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Makes no sense?

Topic started by me is Arkansas executions of seven people in next two weeks or so.

Firing squads are not legal in Arkansas as a method of execution as far as I know. Arkansas lawmaker will propose execution by firing squad - Washington Times

Methods of Execution | Death Penalty Information Center

Your post, run with it. I'm out.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Execution by firing squad - Wikipedia

It is probably more humane than lethal injection in Arkansas right now.

I read once that the least painful manner of capital punishment was the guillotine. but the thought of it.

I also believe there is no comparing killing in a civil society to that of killing because of a war because if one views killing as killing to be wrong then we ought to include the topics of abortion and physician assisted suicide

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I read once that the least painful manner of capital punishment was the guillotine. but the thought of it.

I also believe there is no comparing killing in a civil society to that of killing because of a war because if one views killing as killing to be wrong then we ought to include the topics of abortion and physician assisted suicide

8 Things You May Not Know About the Guillotine - History Lists

It has an interesting history.

I watched a DVD about an English hangman who executed many of the Nazis who were sentenced to die by the Nuremberg judges. He had been very good at calculating just the right drops of the noose. One big problem though was that one of the people he executed turned out to be innocent. Pierrepoint (film - Wikipedia) Timothy Evans - Wikipedia

These all or nothing scenarios seem impractical to me though. They should try to do the best with what they have whether they have the death penalty in that state or not. Victim/survivors have to accept whatever is the law in that State and hope that the State got the right person. More eyes and ears looking for justice is a good thing IMHO. And logical brains not those filled with vengeance. I know how hard that is though when a dearly beloved is the victim from my own experiences with the Mitchells and their many students and how messed up that investigation became mostly because of the community's need for closure.

[Chi-Town]

Judge halts Arkansas plan to execute inmates by end of month: Judge halts Arkansas plan to execute inmates by end of month





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[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Judge halts Arkansas plan to execute inmates by end of month: Judge halts Arkansas plan to execute inmates by end of month





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That's a good move. I hoped some Judge would do that.

I do remember the victim's family in one of these cases complaining that the convict should not be able to live one more day. She did get to voice her anger in what looked like a legal setting. That should at least help her a little bit.

[leftyf]

Then the same judge should also halt all abortions. One should not be allowed without the other.

[Taltarzac725]

Court blocks Arkansas from using lethal injection drug - CNN.com

Here is another link.