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Old 03-26-2017, 01:59 PM
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Even during the Reagan years conservatives shook their heads watching zealous reformers come to Washington only to begin seeking bigger offices and bigger budgets for their agencies, rather than trying to shut them down.

Mr. Trump spent last year demonstrating how few people and how little money are required to mount a winning presidential campaign.
Will he now prove how many federal employees aren't needed to run a government?............

"Post-Preet, "Can America survive,?, "James Freeman Best of the Web on WSJ.com March 13"

The progressives are still in shock that given their belief that Trump had a snowball's chance in hell of winning and the fact that he was running on a shoestring. They have yet come to the realization that they had a poor candidate and a platform that was rejected by a sufficient number of people to turn this election into a Trump victory.

many of these same progressives came to understand that Trump is serious about draining the swamp introducing term limits, and serious about reducing government.

What you are witnessing is people who are coming to grips with this reality and they are doing all they can to protect their positions.

Taxpayers should be delighted that Trump is working to reform and limit government, unless you are one of those that needs nanny government.

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"White House officials insisted Sunday that the relationship between President Donald Trump and Speaker Paul Ryan is strong, even as Republican infighting over the failure to repeal Obamacare exploded into the open over the weekend.

After Trump urged his Twitter followers Saturday to watch Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro — who opened her show last night with six-minute plea for Speaker Paul Ryan to step down — Washington was abuzz with speculation about a Trump-Ryan rift. Trump-boosting Breitbart News, the former publication of the president’s chief strategist Steve Bannon, used the sequence of events to highlight the apparent discord."



Republicans turn fire on each other - POLITICO
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"But aside from their role in passing the Affordable Care Act seven years ago, Democrats are perhaps the one faction with the least blame for Friday’s fiasco. As much as they might have wished to claim credit, the opposition party was nearly a non-factor in the wrangling. There was never any intention to design a replacement plan that would attract Democratic votes, in part because of the huge Republican margin in the chamber. The Democrats surely owned Obamacare before, but given GOP control of the House, Senate, and White House, Friday seems to mark the day that Republicans came into ownership.

Trump’s quick disavowal of any role in the collapse fits with an emerging pattern: The president never takes the blame for anything that goes wrong. What about his claim that President Obama “wiretapped” him?


The GOP Health-Care Bill Collapse: It's Never Trump's Fault - The Atlantic
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"Still, the Trump presidency stands diminished by the whirlwind repeal-and-replace push. The bravado is stripped away after members of his own party showed that they didn’t fear his political force.

The precious first 100 days are now nearly two-thirds complete. So far, Trump has been held back by the judicial branch and the legislative branch, as well as his own actions."


ANALYSIS: Defied by Republicans, President Trump crashes into sharp realities - ABC News
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Even during the Reagan years conservatives shook their heads watching zealous reformers come to Washington only to begin seeking bigger offices and bigger budgets for their agencies, rather than trying to shut them down.

Mr. Trump spent last year demonstrating how few people and how little money are required to mount a winning presidential campaign.
Will he now prove how many federal employees aren't needed to run a government?............

"Post-Preet, "Can America survive,?, "James Freeman Best of the Web on WSJ.com March 13"

The progressives are still in shock that given their belief that Trump had a snowball's chance in hell of winning and the fact that he was running on a shoestring. They have yet come to the realization that they had a poor candidate and a platform that was rejected by a sufficient number of people to turn this election into a Trump victory.

many of these same progressives came to understand that Trump is serious about draining the swamp introducing term limits, and serious about reducing government.

What you are witnessing is people who are coming to grips with this reality and they are doing all they can to protect their positions.

Taxpayers should be delighted that Trump is working to reform and limit government, unless you are one of those that needs nanny government.

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" reform and limit government" He is starting out good, by alienating his own backer's, or haven't you noticed?
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" reform and limit government" He is starting out good, by alienating his own backer's, or haven't you noticed?
Did he tell you that he was out to make friends? Seems like I voted for him because he is different, not a politician. Quit crying Davie, he's going to make America Great for you, even you. Kind of funny that he is doing more for your type than his type and you are still trying to bite his hand.
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Progressives marched to the beat of Obama dictates for 8 years never having an original idea of their own and now they witness
actual/real political debate and and policy making and they can't grasp what they are witnessing.

Progressives, its called separation of powers and the founders deliberately made reaching agreement on policy making difficult, and hence a slow process for good reason.

to pass Obamacare the democrats shut out the Republicans by passing Obamacare in the middle of night and with the caveat that we had to pass it to see what was in it.

Now these same democrats refuse to participate offer their opinion, etc. Real grown up.

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"The Republican Party of "no" for Democrat Barack Obama's eight years is having a hard time getting to "yes" in the early Donald Trump era.

The unmitigated failure of the GOP bill to replace Obamacare underscored that Republicans are a party of upstart firebrands, old-guard conservatives and moderates in Democratic-leaning districts. Despite the GOP monopoly on Washington, they are pitted against one another and struggling for a way to govern."


GOP struggles to govern despite a monopoly in Washington
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The Republican "NO" during the Obama administration was due to radical policy proposals and the will of the people, whereas the Dem "NO" of today is based totally on petulant vindictive vengeance and does not take into consideration current events or the will of the people. The Dems found out the hard way by losing their total control of congress and now even the White House. Schumer will be the instrument to finally cut the left's life support.
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Dems: You must pass this bill to know what is in it:
Reps: um.... No.

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Dems: You must pass this bill to know what is in it:
Reps: um.... No.
The Context Behind Nancy Pelosi’s Famous ‘We Have to Pass the Bill’ Quote | Mediaite

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Almost immediately, though, the conservative media seized on the quote, and perverted it into an indictment of the law’s complexity.

The meaning that was so perfectly plain to an objective reporter
on that day has been completely lost.


Here’s the full text of the speech that then-Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi delivered on March 9, 2010, via press release from the Speaker’s Office:
That being of course, because most conservatives are simpletons...and not adept at absorbing complicated subjects.



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The Context Behind Nancy Pelosi’s Famous ‘We Have to Pass the Bill’ Quote | Mediaite



That being of course, because most conservatives are simpletons...and not adept at absorbing complicated subjects.



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Pelosi is such a great example, sampling of the liberal mindset. Liberals could not find a better model to represent them.
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This "bullying" is apparently what the OP means by "coming to terms with reality

]"White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon told a group of House conservatives they had no choice but to back the GOP's ObamaCare repeal bill days before the bill was pulled, according to a new report.

Bannon confronted members of the House Freedom Caucus earlier this week during the White House's push for the American Health Care Act, Axios's Mike Allen reported Saturday in his newsletter.

"Guys, look. This is not a discussion. This is not a debate. You have no choice but to vote for this bill,” Bannon reportedly said.

A Freedom Caucus member reportedly replied: “You know, the last time someone ordered me to something, I was 18 years old. And it was my daddy. And I didn't listen to him, either."
The conservative group met with President Trump at the White House on Thursday, but the president reportedly did not want to discuss policy specifics of the healthcare legislation."


http://thehill.com/homenews/325767-r...-vote-for-bill

Also note, the Presidents son in law now has a new job, which on the surface appears to be the beginning of the Trump/Bannon dream.....

This from Trump in 2014...

"“A lot of people live better without having a job, than with having a job. I’ve had it where you have people and you want to hire them, but they can’t take the job for a period of nine months because they’re doing better now than they would with a job.”
“You know what solves it? When the economy crashes, when the country goes to total hell, and everything is a disaster, then you’ll have riots to go back to where we used to be, when we were great.”"


And Bannon....

"Lenin,” he answered, “wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” Bannon was employing Lenin’s strategy for Tea Party populist goals. He included in that group the Republican and Democratic Parties, as well as the traditional conservative press."


Steve Bannon, Donald Trump'''s Closest Adviser, Just Wants to See the World Burn | GQ
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"Still, the Trump presidency stands diminished by the whirlwind repeal-and-replace push. The bravado is stripped away after members of his own party showed that they didn’t fear his political force.

The precious first 100 days are now nearly two-thirds complete. So far, Trump has been held back by the judicial branch and the legislative branch, as well as his own actions."


ANALYSIS: Defied by Republicans, President Trump crashes into sharp realities - ABC News
I don't think it's because his own party doesn't fear his political force; they don't just blindly do things like the other party. He didn't write the new plan, THEY did. They couldn't agree among themselves because they actually read the bill. They killed it, not President Trump.

In all fairness to President Obama, he didn't write Obamacare, either. It's just that he, like the others who passed it without reading it, signed it to see what was in it. That bill was entrusted to someone to write who blatantly stated that the "American people were too stupid to know or care...". He just didn't know the American people so well, did he?

I do agree, though, that President Trump just needs to get out of his own way much of the time.
 

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