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Originally Posted by Guest
There are politicians and generals who believe, perhaps honestly, that the answer to every issue is more bombs. They would have bombed Iran, North Korea, etc. How well in recent history has the big stick worked? Which military won in Vietnam? How well have the Israeli assaults won the peace with the Palestinians? Did our overwhelming use of force make things better in Iraq or Libya? And it is not just recent. Did England's overwhelming military superiority work in 1776? It is the strength of the belief in the people being bombed to withstand and recruit and continue that is so important. Every Israeli incursion creates a brief pause, and many more Palestinians willing to die.
The Ukraine is not important. I don't care if it is independent or part of Russia. Do your really care? What is the history of the area? What do the citizens there want? What are the policies of the Ukrainian government that might make it important to give them support other than they are not Putin? Is it a nation with a strong commitment to civil liberties, minority rights, protection of the environment or is a nation run by a petty dictator who is vicious in his own policies? How much different will the world be if eastern Ukraine is annexed into Russia? Is it worth any American lives or any American dollars?
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While ideally, I would like to agree with your assertions, but they..your assertions, are based on isolationism. I do not think we are in a position to do that. If you have not been reading about Ukraine, will not attempt to refresh you but consider it important enough to our President that he called Putin on it, warned Putin and put enough restrictions on trade to really pressure Putin.
I understand the concern you express, but suddenly, our country seems to want to ignore any trouble in the world. We should be learning that it will not pay for the USA to do that. This country is the strongest military might in the world and countries are now lining up to take advantage of our "isolationism" or whatever you want to call it.
We care about people dying.....we turned our back in Syria for 3 years, even though we spoke big, but did nothing. That death toll now exceeds 200,000, many small children shot down in the streets. Now, that vacuum has been filled by ISIL. Same in Iraq. Turkey is spiraling. We are, and I pray with some success negotiating with Iran, who still to this day proclaims death to Israel yet we still negoitiate with them.
You can only close your eyes so many times.....but
As for Ukraine.....
"MUNICH (Reuters) - The leaders of Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France agreed to meet in Belarus on Wednesday to try to broker a peace deal for Ukraine amid escalating violence there and signs of cracks in the transatlantic consensus on confronting Vladimir Putin.
The four leaders held a call on Sunday, two days after Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande traveled to Moscow for talks with Putin that produced no breakthrough in the nearly year-long conflict that has claimed over 5,000 lives.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/leaders-sc...7--sector.html
To more directly answer your question...it is a country, a free independent country that has been invaded.