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Old 02-20-2015, 10:50 AM
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Well stated, but I don't know if it is possible for many people. I think one example of the problem is when the Republican leaders came together at Obama's inauguration to vow to do whatever they could to see that his presidency fail. They didn't vow to make the country stronger, or to improve their constituent's lives, or see what they could do to get some of their agenda woven into that of the Presidents. No, they vowed to do what they could to see that he fails, despite the obvious outcome that if the President fails, the country and its citizens largely fail. Noncooperation and obstruction is not a unique Republican tactic, but that was the most obvious example I could think of. As you can see on this board, a microcosm of the country, people not only disagree, but see evil intent and ignorance at work in the ideas and opinions of the opposing side. When members of one side (a super minority I hope) see the other side as "mentally ill", how can any common ground be found?
Here is the problem with what you say.

NOTHING of the sort was said "at Obama's inauguration" of the sort.

The infamous comment was made by Sen McConnell in 2010 AFTER the Affordable Care Act was passed. And it was made on the eve of the mid term election.

"NJ: Whats the job?
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."


"When seen in full context, McConnells quote is not really as shocking as the snippet that is frequently repeated by Democrats."

When did McConnell say he wanted to make Obama a ‘one-term president’? - The Washington Post

This link also provides the full context of the remarks.

I have stated many times on here as to what happened and it ALL had to do with the passing of Obamacare, NOT the details in it, but the method used to pass it, Ie. disrupting the US Senate rules that had never been done, paying off to get votes even with the rule changes (see LA as a clear and public example), the public mocking of the other party all during the process and attempts to embarass that party.

The contest also has the FULL response...

" If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if hes willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, its not inappropriate for us to do business with him."

The comment alluded to is a long standing political campaign ad type thing and I really thought that by now, everyone was aware of the context and the totally improper use of the quote.

Thus, we need civility to discuss, but we ALSO should make sure we are using facts in those discussions. I honestly can say that I have learned alot by reading on the old political forum and if you want to actually discuss, please make sure of your facts.
 
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