[Walt.]

Originally Posted by maybe

... Community service might be, but some people would not be much real help at community service they did not want to do.

When I worked for a city government (Traffic Violations Bueau) I had a drunk driver working for me doing 4 weeks of community service. When his personal phone calls looked like they might be a problem I asked if perhaps he would prefer to be outside picking up trash for his service. The calls stopped and he did a real good job for the next 3-1/2 weeks.