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Old 03-21-2015, 10:27 AM
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This sounds eerily similar to the lead up to the Iraq war based on lies about weapons of mass destruction that would destroy the US. Over a decade later, trillions of dollars in debt, hundreds of thousands killed, Saddam Hussein is gone replaced by ISIS. If that was the mission, you could say 'mission accomplished'.

Remember John McCain's little ditty during the 2008 campaign...bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. Thank goodness he lost the election.
First of all, in order to argue intelligently, you need to start by getting your basic facts straight.

For several years after the surge Iraq was relatively peaceful. Then, in 2011 and against the advice of his generals, Obama pulled out all US troops. He did this for political purposes. He created a power vacuum and ISIS filled it. In the world of high strategy where I used to work, we had an elegant term for leaders who made bad decisions like that ... to wit, we identied them as "dumbass"

Let me say it another way so that its unambigous for you -- there was no ISIS until Obama's incompetence enabled it to come into being. Do you understand that at all? Would you like to argue it?

In sum Barack Obama is, metaphorically speaking, the Father of ISIS