Originally Posted by Guest

First of all, in order to argue intelligently, you need to start by getting your basic facts straight.

For several years after the surge Iraq was relatively peaceful. Then, in 2011 and against the advice of his generals, Obama pulled out all US troops. He did this for political purposes. He created a power vacuum and ISIS filled it. In the world of high strategy where I used to work, we had an elegant term for leaders who made bad decisions like that ... to wit, we identied them as "dumbass"

Let me say it another way so that its unambigous for you -- there was no ISIS until Obama's incompetence enabled it to come into being. Do you understand that at all? Would you like to argue it?

In sum Barack Obama is, metaphorically speaking, the Father of ISIS