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Old 03-21-2015, 12:25 PM
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First of all, in order to argue intelligently, you need to start by getting your basic facts straight.

For several years after the surge Iraq was relatively peaceful. Then, in 2011 and against the advice of his generals, Obama pulled out all US troops. He did this for political purposes. He created a power vacuum and ISIS filled it. In the world of high strategy where I used to work, we had an elegant term for leaders who made bad decisions like that ... to wit, we identied them as "dumbass"

Let me say it another way so that its unambigous for you -- there was no ISIS until Obama's incompetence enabled it to come into being. Do you understand that at all? Would you like to argue it?

In sum Barack Obama is, metaphorically speaking, the Father of ISIS

Congrats. you have posted the most inaccurate false and biased brief summary of Iraq I have ever read. Please post for me your data on the peaceful number of Sunni/Shia deaths after the surge, on the behavior of the Malaki administration, on the position of the Kurds, and on the frequency of car bombs, human bombs, mosque bombs, during that peaceful period. And compare please to the number of similar events say in 2001 or 2002 before Bush/Chaney decided to liberate Iraq at nearly no cost to the citizens of this country. And you think Obama destabilized the region by fulfilling a campaign promise to get us out of that quagmire.