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Originally Posted by Guest
Can you give me all the great civilizations in Western history that allowed women to vote. How about the great civilizations that allowed Jews to worship without fear of pogroms. Can you give me all the great civilizations that prohibited marital rape? Can you give me all the great civilizations that prohibited slavery? or crushing child labor? or the genocide of native peoples? And why are you limiting your evidence of greatness to Western Europe?
Sometimes America has been great. Sometimes it has been a beacon of light shown into the dark bigoted evil corners of your precious Western civilizations. Sometimes we have had to fight both physical wars and intellectual ones to make the troglodytes lose their control and make the cockroaches go back behind the refrigerator as they never fully disappear. And showing leadership on the issue of making those of non-majority sexuality full citizens is going to be one of those moments when America will be proud of its place in leadership on the civil rights for all as it was other groups that hopefully no person thinks should be returned to the way they were historically treated by our country and nearly every other country in the past.
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I'm going to take that non-answer as a resounding answer that you don't have one.
I do have to comment on this line however ... "...dark bigoted evil corners of your precious Western civilizations. "
You can easily mock Western civilization because you've benefited from it, along with everyone else, and its freedoms protect you, along with the US military of course. We have freedom of speech (at least for now and unless the left wing crazies amend the 1st amendment but that's another story.)
You also need to understand that the Christianity that you apparently despise is the literal bedrock of Western Civ and the freedoms that protect your sorry behind. Do you even realize that?
You should also reflect on just how successful homosexual marriage would be if you lived under Islamic Sharia law. Have you ever thought about that?
My advice ...next time you think about how "rotten" and unfair and all the rest of it is with our "precious Western Civilization" I suggest you get down on your knees and give thanks to God or Nature (your choice) for allowing you to be here with you head still on your shoulders.