Our results for whatever reason are different then several others. We have a Sears water softener (using salt) and a Sears whole house filter. We have had these for over 18 months, and we wash all of the glasses, including the crystal in the dishwasher, and the results are that the glasses and crystal look as clear as ones that have never been used. We use cascade, and NO rinse aid. We are located in the Village of Pinellas.
Hope this helps.
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Pennsylvania, for 60+ years, most recently, Allentown, now TV. 
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