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Originally Posted by tuccillo

Extremism on either side of the issue is not constructive. This is still a research area. I don't agree with the concept that "it is a done deal" since if it was then all climate change research can be stopped since we know the answer. Neither would I call it a fraud.

Tuccillo, you seem to be the only real authority in this area on TOTV so I would appreciate your take on the following.

From what I understand the Pro-"Man Made Global Warming" individual belief is on the side of increased CO2 by man has caused the global temperature to rise. Even the most opposed to that does not really believe the global temperature has not risen. It's too easy to verify. Although I admit they often state that in order to tweak the believers.

The non-believer does not buy into the man-made part and that it is a natural occurring cyclical event.

So here is the settled science from my understanding. There IS a coloration between CO2 and temperature. What IS NOT settled is this. There is no proof one way or the other, that our man made increase in CO2 causes the temperature to rise vs. the natural cyclical rise in temperature actually is causing the increase in CO2 beyond the man made kind.

There is just too much cooking of the books, so to speak, in the scientific community that rely on government funding for them to not give those funding them what they are looking for. It's the tail wagging the dog from what I can see.

I am open to the concept that warming is caused by man, but you absolutely have to prove it. You can't pile on the assumptions because you can't find the data you are looking for. You need to examine all the data you have and if you don't have enough to prove your theory you find more. What you don't do is make up your own data to suit your theory.

Your thoughts sir.
Respectfuly,
-Kevin