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Originally Posted by Guest
Here is what the US got... With no deal, which is the alternative to this deal, Iran is within an estimated 12 months, perhaps a bit longer, of obtaining the ability to build a thermonuclear device. That is the option you get, or you take this deal. If you refuse this deal then what is your alternative? Do you want war number 3 in the middle east? Do you want the Israeli government to be our secret agents and to do the bombing? Do you want US ground troops to march on Tehran? Or do you just want to hate Obama enough to see Iran get the bomb?
No deal was going to be 100% of what I want or you want. It is a negotiated agreement. It was entered to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. It was their progress toward that weapon which caused the sanctions to be applied. In exchange for no progress and in fact a decrease in Iran's ability, the world will lift sanctions. There will be inspections and you well know we have plenty of spies human or electronic that will continue to gather information between inspections, as we have been getting information now with NO inspections. If we reject this negotiation when every other involved in the negotiation nation accepts it is that because we are "tough" or because we are foolish? We negotiated with the USSR to reduce bombs, and reduced ours with limited inspections. I think that was Mr. Reagan?
If this deal postpones the development of nuclear weapons in Iran by 10 or 20 years, that is a very successful outcome. When Iran gets a bomb, so will the Saudis. This gives time for the government of Iran to mature. We can only hope that it does not become radicalized as have so many others in that region.
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VERY optimistic view, and I can understand it.
I really need to see all the details, but first glance, here are my concerns...
1. As with the Affordablr Care Act, where we were told one thing (open, public debate, etc.) we are "in a corner". No matter what the deal is or isn't, we have no choice now. While the President tacitly implied that he would listen to Congress, and allow them to "approve". That seems to have gone by the wayside suddenly, and we are told about vetoing, and the other countries involved.
2. Relative to those other countries. EVERY SINGLE ONE HAS MUCH TO GAIN FROM THIS DEAL. Of course, especially the Russians and Chinese, although France and Europe are salivating at what they are now going to get, but Russia and China just hit the jackpot.
3. From first discussions, the ability to check on this country, an "experienced" and canny foe at getting around any inspections, is not close to what we were told.
4. War is what most on the left say that the right wants. That is not even close to true. The sanctions were working, and instead of telling them they can have nukes in the future as we have, escalating the sanctions and requiring TOTAL disclosure and TOTAL elimination would seem to me to be in play. Remember and notice how a similiar deal with North Korea is working.
5. We turned our backs on Israel. That speaks volumes to me. No longer can we tell them that we have their back.
Listen, I see your point of view. but this represents a very big and serious gamble.