Serious charges??? Get real. If you can prove that it is not 4, do so. If you cannot prove it - you are wrong. I see no sense in trying to satisfy a neo-conservative.

Now, as the real issue - do you want to see abortions made illegal in the US so that they would be done like in the pre-legal times in unsanitary conditions where the mother was likely to have massive infections, etc?

That is the real issue and not the number of posters talking among themselves. Grow up and make the forum what it is supposed to be.