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Originally Posted by Guest
1. yes, I've taken money from the government. Bet you have, too. I've received. Tax refunds, unemployment and even some money from a victims' relief fund. Next year I'll probably start collecting Social Security. These are all monies to which I was or will be entitled. How about you?
2. Yeah, I've seen some of the Tea Party name calling and I don't like it, either. Regardless, the vast majority who post here are conservatives and Republicans, so my issue is with them since I am a liberal, have been painted with a very broad brush and I have yet to resort to calling anyone here a name. Thought it a couple of times, but haven't said it.
3. I really don't care who started the Black Lives Matters movement. What does matter to me and should to you is the simple fact that young men of color are more likely to be stopped by police when they have done nothing wrong or, at the most, committed a minor infraction for which a young, white male would not be stopped. Justice, including those who work for the police department, should be colorblind. If you wouldn't stop someone white for doing whatever, you shouldn't stop someone black for the same thing. There is something terribly wrong when a father has to sit down and tell his son how to act when stopped by a police officer because the father is afraid his son will be killed if he acts like a normal kid. I never had to tell my daughter how to behave other than the very basic be respectful and polite. Did you? Ask a black man the instructions he feels he has to give his son, how often he has been stopped for no reason other than for being black in a white neighborhood. And even someone who has committed a crime deserves better than dying while at the mercy of the police. So, yes, I do believe in BLM and will continue to do so. It is more than a way to get money. Monetary damages may help get the message across that a certain behavior is intolerable but it certainly doesn't pay for the loss of a child.
And, no, I wasn't at the protest. I did some work in the morning, played bridge with my favorite partner in the afternoon, shed some tears at the end of the Honor Flight ceremony at Colony, enjoyed a lovely evening with friends.
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I totally respect that you do not care what philosophy is behind the Black Lives Matter Movement.
I do, however, and feel our country is being over run with socialism, communism and marxist ideas.
This movement was started by one Alicia Garza, who is a community organizer and when she began the movement she was acting Special Projects Director for the National Domestic Workers Alliance whose members are nannies, housekeepers, caregivers and other domestic workers.
Her inspiration comes from the
Black Liberation Army which was the entity once called the
Black Panthers. She is inspired by the words of Assata Shakur who
killed a New Jersey State Trooper and is in exile in Cuba, a country who has accepted her and whom she loves and has proclaimed it as
"One of the Largest, Most Resistant and Most Courageous Palenques (Maroon Camps) that has ever existed on the Face of this Planet."
She has been involved in extortion, robbery and murder.
This, to me, is not the basis for any kind of positive movement in our country. She has proclaimed for years her hatred for police and of course offers no sympathy for the execution of police officers in our country.
If those words do not give you a chill of fear, then maybe I am the one who is out of touch.
I am a conservative, but not one who wants us to go back to the fifties. Not one who wants anyone of any color to be abused by police. Not one who is blind to many injustices in our country. Not a bigot and not a racist. I actually marched with MLK in Philadelphia during a short visit he made there and believe in my heart of hearts he would be out raged at what is being done in the name of justice.
I do not see any of this as justice. I see it as a marxist take over of our streets and is simply the first step to a war internal in this country,not predicated on seeking justice but predicated on hate and nothing else.
These people do not get my respect in anyway shape or form. You may feel that they are wonderful folks but they are using and fueling hate in this country.
The federal government has investigated any shootings involved and when and if they find reason, there is justice served.
Interesting, if you bother to read a little on this subject that you support so strongly, you will find that the drowning out of the blacks kill blacks cry that many have tried but get drowned out...those people are accurate.
I will leave you a link that I think is simple and clear, although based on your comments, I doubt you will read it, nor will many progressives....
"But Hubbard has plenty of misses. I don't understand why we can't talk about black-on-black crime and police brutality at the same time. Why do we have to treat the two issues separately? It's like saying that if blacks stopped killing blacks tomorrow then police brutality will suddenly stop. We know that's not the case."
James E. Causey - A critic of Black Lives Matter simplifies a complex problem
NO....I will not idolize these people that you idolize. The Democrat party is in the process of being taken over by a socialist, marxist movement. We know they always fail, and we know they always entail bloodshed and killing and we know that countries involved never come back, so NO....I will not idolize these people, not will I be silent about a progressive movement that, in my opinion, has been hijacked by these groups.
I said in an earlier post that I could agree with you on many things.
I take that back. If this kind of movement is supported by you, then we could agree on nothing. We are a country of law and the law works. Let us give voice to the law and the law being administered justly. Lets remember that all the heroes being made by police killings were either criminals in the past or in the commission of a crime.
I am unable to support the people or movement that you support.
These are links to Wiki on some of my comments but more available. I recall in 2008 hearing how the Black Panthers were not good but not to worry, they \have no involvement in Democratic party politics and now I hear how they are in fact supported but with different names.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Garza
And I would be curious to hear what you respect about all these groups and what makes them so attractive ?