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Old 09-28-2015, 09:40 PM
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Your understanding of the "theme" as you refer to it is incredibly untrue and false. I can assure you that many people on this forum and on the past forum have criticized congress.

For myself, I opposed our current Presidents nomination strongly and his election although I posted many times that I felt the Republicans tickets were poor.

I did that on this forum along with others but you must have missed that.

I doubt you know but opening with that statement makes you feel in charge and then you can continue your lecture.

The Tea Party is a strong influence to be sure. I wonder if you even know what they stand for ???? I am not involved in nor do I support them in all their endeavors but they are not all racist, bigots of faggots or whatever vile name is used to describe them on here.

Congress is at fault, most recently by allowing the WH to dictate to them. The House and Senate became Republican but you would never know. THAT is the fault of the Republicans and kudos to the WH for sticking to their guns and doing what they wanted.

To blame any one party for the problem in congress is just foolish. Anyone who does so is not very well read.

The problem comes directly from the WH.

Listen, I decided when he was elected to see how this goes and frankly at the beginning I was a bit excited at his handling of the financial crisis.

He lost me, and I think the entire Republican party with the attitude conveyed and the trickery involved in the ACA. It simply got worse after than and the Republicans in congress just allowed it. People elected the Republicans to congressional control and he continued....kudos to the WH and boos to the Republicans.

It has gotten so bad with the move to Socialism, communism and marxism and the bad mouthing by the WH of anyone who does not agree with him...well, you are seeing the results in the polls.

Your preaching, as untrue as its basis is, fall on deaf ears. If you knew anything, you would understand that the election is over a year away...that not one single VOTE has been cast, that the field is so large that nobody has had the opportunity to even lay out programs. We are in that stage where you just want to get noticed.

I leave you with a few links that talk to the move so far extreme left by the Democrat party is it scary....all from the last few months....

Have Democrats Pulled Too Far Left? | RealClearPolitics

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/op...-far-left.html

Jim Webb: Democratic Party has 'moved way far to the left' | MSNBC

Just last week, one of the party favorites Elizabeth Warren gave her blessing to to Black Lives Matter, a marxist inspired group as if it were the only group looking for justice or as if the Democratic party was the only party that supports those in poverty (conservatives by fact give more money and time to the underprivileged)

Elizabeth Warren just gave the speech that Black Lives Matter activists have been waiting for - The Washington Post

Your party has been taken over by radical left wing groups.....that is nothing but fact.

I understand the problems with conservatives as well, but given the choice I will elect to stay with groups who believe in the constitution, the rule of law and such things.

PLEASE, I do not know you, but you sound like you think you are smart but I am afraid that unsupported claims of superiority do not impress me.
My party has been taken over by radical left wing groups. I am a moderate independent. I have no party! I am going to vote for John Kasich in the Fl. primary, so I am going to be a Republican. Did you listen to John Kasich in the last debate? Every time he spoke not a peep out of the crowd. This is the person with experience in Washington, and running a major state, and no one wants to listen to him. I wonder why?

I asked a lot of questions. You didn't answer any of them. Not one! You ever hear of "guilt by silence". You know what the problem is with the conservatives. How about sharing it with someone not as gifted as you? Since when is asking questions, preaching?

You referred to the same article twice. I guess it was so good it was worth repeating. Come on man! An article written a person that worked for the last three republican administrations, and you don't think that it is going to be one sided.

"Clinton instituted three strikes and you are out, and proposed adding 100,000 police officers." Mass incarnation was a result of what he did. Clinton is admitting the policies have caused problems. Obama is addressing those problem. I will copy and paste Clinton's views now on the next post.

"Obama is more liberal than Clinton on gay rights, religious liberties, abortion rights, drug legalization, and climate control." No kidding. The country has moved on almost all of these items.

"Clinton cut spending, and produced a surplus. Under Obama spending and deficits reached record levels". What shape was the country in when Clinton took office versus Obama took office? If you going to compare people, you have to start on a level playing field. Figures lie, and liars figure. That is exactly what Wehner did played with numbers to support his argument.

What do you think would happen, if you compared any of the Republicans running for congress to President Reagan? They have moved so far to the right that it is scary.

Concerning the Tea Party, they are nothing, but noise. Boehner didn't want to listen to them any more. Ted Cruz is probably the only one in the Senate that they support. Boehner called him a jackass. They are less than 10% in the House. Have anyone of them proposed anything other than repealing ACA 54 times? Boehner asked them for a replacement. Their response according to Boehner was "it's too hard".


The president of the Village's Tea Party wrote an article where she called Obama use of "fast track" as an unthinkable overreach by our current president. It's unconstitutional. Fast track was used by very Republican president, since Reagan. Did the Constitution change when Obama became president?

Concerning Black Lives Matter, they are not Marxists. They are the worst kind of racists. When that lady jumped on stage at a Sander's event, he should have smacked her in the head.

"It has gotten so bad with the move to Socialism, communism and Marxism" That statement is total nonsense. How about supporting that with facts?

Start with explaining how the ACA is a left wing socialist program that has its roots in the Heritage Foundation, and Romneycare! I really would like you to explain that one. According to you I am really stupid, so go into simple detail.

Of course my comments are falling on deaf ears, because you refuse to listen. I am an moderate independent, but everyone that doesn't agree with everything you say is a left wing liberal. No, we know who the problem is here.