Originally Posted by Guest

"I tried to leave, but they keep on pulling me back in."

You put five items on your post, and said, Why don't we discuss these items? The implication being was that I not being serious, and only want to bash Republicans, and defend this president Then, you said that I was tiring.

What I said start threads on any of the five items, and see how quick they die. You started a post on the AUMF, and it has four posts. Isn't that I quick death?

But I do have to admit I was wrong on this thread. It didn't die a quick death. It is stillborn. Anytime, you want to make my case for me by all means do so. Consider this a cheap shot at you, as your post was a back handed shot directed at me.

I have posted the president effect on the economy before. Main theme of the Blinder, and Watson article isn't anything new. The president has little or no control over the economy. We were taught this in college in the late 60's. I have looked and looked for my post, but couldn't find it. The post had something to do with the length of time that it took for Obama to get the country out of the Great Recession. The post that I was addressing stated that it has taken Obama more time to get out of the recession than any president in history including getting out of the Great Depression.

It goes without saying, but I will say it anyway that I was told that I was totally wrong. My reply was that all recession aren't the same. The economic conditions have changed. We have gone from a production to a service economy. The factory jobs that existed in our times aren't there in great numbers any more.

Most, if not all elections, aren't decided on one issue. The exception maybe be, when Reagan got elected. As I have stated before, Reagan didn't do a damn thing in his first two years of presidency to get the country out of the recession. The recession had been going on for at least two years before he became president. If a company was on the verge of going bankrupt, it went under. Reagan wasn't that stupid. He knew that the programs that he could institute wouldn't get the country out of the recession.

If his presidency was flipped, and the recession occurred in his last two years, because of his trickle down economics, he probably wouldn't have gotten reelected. The mood of the voters at the time of an election has a lot to do with who they are going to vote for. If you are hurting, you want a change to the other party.

If you have been wronged as in the civil rights laws of the 60's, you vote for the other party, and doesn't have anything to do with the economy. You keep this attitude for the next 50+ years.

The next election the economy will be one of the major issues. The National debt, and the current attitude toward Washington will decide the election. I have stated this numerous times, and have been criticized for it, and called a liar that I am for John Kasich. This is the 6th or 7th time that I have asked this question, "What is wrong with John Kasich?" The last debate, he didn't look good. He was really aggravated, and couldn't hide it.