Steve Z- Great posts, and right on. The reality is that the same people who hate us now, hated us when Clinton was president, and it has nothing to do with Bush. They used to say the same thing when Reagan was president - how he was going to blow up the world and everyone hated us. Well, the reality is that is just a bunch of lefties in the US spouting political junk, and we all know it.

As far as Taltarzac's comments - Not that I really care that much, but I think if we elect Clinton2, Europeans will think we are crazy for electing someone just because her husband was president.

If we elect Obama, at least we will be breaking the racial divide somewhat. I am not big on anybody from the Chicago democratic machine, they are all crooked. However, Obama is still more palatable than Hillary. I do think he would at least try to change the Rhetoric in Washington - I would guess that a lot of the socialists in Europe would be happy, but I am sure many would ask if he is not experienced enough - I think he is, but I don't agree with his socialist politics.

Although I am not a big McCain fan, I do think he is honest, and is definitely not even close to Bush. Of course, he is not close to conservative either. Just the least of the bad choices. He is popular overseas - and a genuine war hero. He has credibility on internation al issues. Of course, the lefties in Europe won't like him, but for the most part, Europe has moved more right these days and I am sure there are lots who are pulling for him, despite what you will here in the media.

BTW- It says you are from Menominee falls among other places - when did you live there? My Sister lives up there.