[punkpup]

Number 6 do you mean that the electronic collar to which you are referring vibrates like a beeper or my phone when in vibrate mode? Because if that's the case I don't really see that as a problem.

Where an electronic collar becomes a problem is when the current emitted by the collar causes harm to the dog. I have heard of dogs having permanent nerve damage due to the cruel and inhumane use of electronic collars. I guess my take on it is if I were to find it painful or uncomfortable then I would never, ever consider using it on my dogs.

BTW, if there is any doubt how painful these things can be just watch the episode of America's Funniest Videos which contains a segment devoted to folks putting these collars on and allowing another person to use the remote control to shock them. The shrieks, screams and writhing of the collar wearers clearly constitutes torture. Whatever possesses a person to do this either as the recipient or administrator is beyond me but then again I'm not in to S&M. "Can you say, What an idiot" lol. Did I laugh? You bet your :edit: I did all the while thinking that if you were dumb enough to strap a "Shock Collar" onto your neck then you deserved whatever you got.

NOTE: I apologize in advance if you find my twisted sense of humor offensive. A human being has a choice animals don't.