BTK, all we are saying is the Political Forum has a problem with civility and credibility. I think most posts are worthwhile and are well intended by the poster. It is when every couple of posts we have "incoming". A radical bomb thrower who lost his leverage on his or her prior posts and begins the childish name calling and as we say in Jersey "digs". That's the person or persons who turn me and most of the above off. Meaningful discussions are one thing, out and out bull....( "An offensive term meaning to try to intimidate, deceive or persuade somebody with deceitful or foolish talk") is another. Clean up the forum and get the people back who want honest discussion. My two cents.........