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Originally Posted by Guest
When did the recession start, and how deep was it? All of the items that you are questioning were a direct result of things that happened during "W's" presidency. Did "W" cause them? Probably not, but they happened in his term. If you want to play the blame game, then start with him.
Name a year that health insurance premiums didn't go up. For the last 30+ years, they have exceeded the rate of inflation every year. You want to stop insurance rates from going up go to single payer, Medicare for all.
I know that you were responding to a wiseass, but other people do read your posts, and can answer your questions.
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I do respect your answer, so don't take this the wrong way.
I did not say WHO started the recession. I said it was the longest recession in history. A lot of presidents have had to cope with recessions, INCLUDING Bush in 2001. All of the recessions and depressions were much shorter in duration. That is an indicator of poor decision making and poor choice of listening to inept advisers. That is only Obama's blame.
Yes, health insurance did go up throughout history. BUT, I believe Obama promised and insisted and still lies about health care costs going down. There is NO indication that health care costs have gone down at all. They went up, with less coverage for some of us, and coverage for stuff we will never need for some of us. Even the Democrats say that Obamacare is not any good and want to trash it. Even Hillary wants to change it.
Single payer, Medicare for all would be a disaster and not work. Medicare is the most over rated mess that costs this country way too much. Most folks are ignorant of the cost and how bad it is. Example: You pay into Medicare all your working life and when you reach 65 years old, they try to con you into upgrading to Medicare B. Medicare B requires you to pay a minimum of $105 per month for each of you. Medicare A only covers hospitalization. If you also want prescription coverage, you must pay even more. Even if we had medicare for all, the majority of doctors would not take it. You would still have to pay for private insurance. Even the countries that have socialized medicine (which is what you are advocating) the only way to get decent treatment is for those folks to have additional private insurance. You will never get rid of private insurance. People do not want to wait in line for months or years for cancer treatment or operations.
Don't believe me. Move to another country for a couple of years and see what socialized medicine is all about. I have lived in many countries and seen the best and the worst. IMO, we have the best, even if it is expensive. Before advocating for the gov to run your health care, you should know something of how bad it will become. Our government has put us so far in debt that if we went to a gov run system, we would be speaking Chinese within a decade.
But, thank you for your civil exchange.