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Originally Posted by Guest
I don't know where you come from but the hospitals I have used, billed you whether or not you had insurance. And then if you don't pay, they sic the bill collectors on you. There is NO free health care that I know of, other than Medicaid for the poor.
The price of health care is also high because of how much doctors and hospitals have to pay for malpractice insurance. We need tort reform, something that wasn't even addressed in Obamacare. They purposely ignored it. Obama wants Obamacare to fail so that the gov can go to socialized medicine. Purchasing insurance through the Free Enterprise system across state lines would also have brought down the cost of insurance. Also not addressed on purpose. Both of these things were brought up by Republicans and discarded by the socialists in congress.
Now, with Obamacare, the poor are getting even more poor because if they do get insurance, they have to pay outrageous deductibles. Medicaid was expanded costing the taxpayer more money, but most will accept that part. But, the promise for insurance for all, cheaper for all is a myth perpetrated by Obama. We still have millions without health care insurance. Oh, and let's not forget the half trillion plus that was stolen from Medicare to pay for it.
You can take your Obamacare and stick it.
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I think we all agree the system is broken.
I don't believe anyone would not agree that everyone wants but no one wants to pay.
Personal experience-years ago I had several blood tests done as ordered by my doctor. At the time we had AETNA insurance and they denied one of the several tests were necessary. They our bill as a private payer was about $300 for that test. AETNA would have paid $35 and the company doing the test would have gotten that as PAYMENT IN FULL. You would not want to be the person at QUEST trying to explain this to me. BY THE WAY-I paid the $35 that AETNA would have paid and QUEST accepted it as payment in full.
As to everyone wanting and wanting others to pay. I was self employed and healthcare insurance cost my family about 20,000. For those who work for government or companies that provide healthcare insurance WHY IS THAT 20,000 NOT TAXED AS INCOME?
Have you not noticed that is your insurance pays for say six weeks of physical therapy, you will get six weeks. Nothing magical will happen after the six weeks. In fact in the end they will show you how to do it yourself-something you could have found on the internet without seeing the therapist.
Re: hospitals billing you.
Fortunately we both have assets for collections to go after so we have insurance. For people who have nothing to loose they have no reason to pay.
As to OBAMACARE, we agree it has been a disaster. Our government decided to reinvent the wheel. Obama gave a speech that his plan would not affect people using healthcare, would not reduce a doctors income, would not reduce profits of the insurance companies, would not reduce income for attornies. Oh and he was going to pay for it all with computer record keeping-all doctors already had computer record keeping so as to deal with both government and private insurance.
WE DID NOT NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL we could have looked and found the rest of the industrial world gets similar life spans-some slightly more some slightly less AT HALF THE COST FOR MEDICAL CARE.