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Originally Posted by Guest
Not to disparage you, but you do not live in reality.
You say that the gov can not force the church to marry gays? WRONG! They are threatening to take away tax exempt status if the church does not comply.
Yes Deviant behavior. Abnormal behavior. Just because your lifestyle is tolerated does not make it normal or condoned. Make up all the excuses you wish, but facts are facts. You can bring up all kinds of issues not related, kind of like blaming Bush for Obama's failures, but it doesn't change fact. You can attempt to excuse it, but that doesn't matter. Fact: homosexuality is deviant and abnormal behavior. Is it accepted? It is TOLERATED, not condoned. It does not have to be the Church that condemns it, science does also. But, I don't want to argue the issue of gay marriage. It is already considered legal, thanks to a group of judges, NOT the majority of American voters. I am not a bigot because I tolerate it. I don't agree with it, or condone it, but I tolerate it. As far as I am concerned, what two people do in privacy is their business.
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Dear non bigoted guest
You are full of bluster and certainty. I request, no I insist that if you are going to continue to make statements of fact that you support them with evidence.
Start with something simple. Find me a single shred of evidence that anyone in any level of government has threatened the tax exempt status of any church over gay marriage. I do not accept a statement that someone on the right is afraid it might happen, but I want to see a real statement from a real personal doing exactly what you said has happened, because I know you are wrong.
Here is the link to Family research council which is a far right wing organization actively anti-gay marriage and even their website says you are WRONG
Family Research Council
and here is the exact wording from the court on how it impacts churches
Finally, it must be emphasized that religions, and those who adhere to religious doctrines, may continue to advocate with utmost, sincere conviction that, by divine precepts, same-sex marriage should not be condoned. The First Amendment ensures that religious organizations and persons are given proper protection as they seek to teach the principles that are so fulfilling and so central to their lives and faiths, and to their own deep aspirations to continue the family structure they have long revered. The same is true of those who oppose same-sex marriage for other reasons.
Lastly as to your insistence that because you tolerate gay people you are not a bigot, I suppose that if you tolerate Negroes that does not make you a racist and if you "tolerate" Jews you are not an anti-Semite. And your risible assertion that "science" condemns homosexuality... You know nothing about science as science absolutely shows that homosexuality is a normal part of most mammalian species, and science never condemns anything, it presents evidence, posits theories, and seeks to understand the world in which we live, but it never condemns behavior.