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Originally Posted by golfing eagles

OK, let's dance.
"Not all intersections are the same"---quite obvious. When an intersection is busy enough it earns a traffic light. Some earn turn arrows.

"When vehicles are in the turn lanes of 466A, you cannot adequately see traffic coming straight through."---Disagree, and I drive it frequently--do you? But I agree with Village Thinker, moving the left turn lane over would improve visibility for everyone, since some people seem to have a problem with it.

"Entering the intersection just to wait for the light to change so you can make the turn is absurd."----Don't remember saying THAT. But if I am the first car in line to make a left, I will pull up to the center line of the cross road, since I will turn on yellow if needed. Do you stay back at the end of the turn lane? If so, and since you state you cannot see what is coming, you then sit there as the light turns red? That is essentially a self imposed red turn arrow, except that you are imposing it on everyone behind you as well.

"But I'm not going to change your mind, so there's no use discussing it."--actually, if you make a logical argument, you might. So far, it's an epic fail.

"Turn arrows won't foul up traffic to the point of congestion. It's a preposterous statement in this area."---Really? People constantly are complaining about traffic, especially this time of year. So you think making a line of cars stop and wait 3 minutes when they might very well have been on their way does not add to congestion? Please rethink that one.

"My opinion is that in certain intersections, turn arrows need to be implemented"---best statement in your post, since you are entitled to your opinion. But overall, I'll give you a 3 on a scale of 10. Maybe we should waltz instead of tango

You've got some serious issues. But hey, do what you need to do to save that extra 3 minutes of your time.