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Originally Posted by golfing eagles
I have experienced traffic in Manhattan, Boston (for years), LA, etc And the traffic we have here this time of year is already pretty nasty. If you stop in the box, you are not passing through it. And if you are still there when the light changes, you will be blocking it.
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Agreed---just don't be there when the light changes. And as I posted above, don't enter it when it is obvious you are not going to be able to turn safely due to oncoming flow of traffic. What I'm really getting at is the times when 1 or 2 cars are coming and the light won't change for a while, which are the same times that a red arrow would be a detriment rather than an enhancement.