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Originally Posted by Guest
Your stupid and naive questions were not answered because I was not on here since I last posted. I went out with my wife.
Yes, liberals are socialists now. Unless you didn't even watch your own liberal debates, you would know that Hillary was trying to out socialist Bernie. Go ahead and tell me what the difference between today's Democrat party and Socialism. Debbie Whatshername couldn't, even after being asked on different occasions.
Regarding Social Security. That is my money that was forcibly taken from me. So, it is my money. I have never used Medicare. I paid for it my whole working life and have not used it. I have private Insurance that covers everything I need. I pay near a thousand bucks a month for it. Medicare is cr@p and doesn't cover anything but hospitalization, unless you have Medicare B, C, D for other options. And you have to pay for those after you retire.
We live in a capitalist country with some socialist programs. Granted. That does not make Socialism a good thing. It means that our country can survive with some form of socialist programs. Unless you are totally uninformed, which seems to be the case for a lot of liberal trolls, you will know that our socialist programs are not viable. They are failing. Social Security is failing. Medicare is failing. They are getting too expensive. You can not give to those that don't contribute, without sacrificing and leaching from those that donate forcibly. Socialism fails in every country, including ours. And do not give me an example of Denmark as successful. It isn't. Every country that has socialism, has to increase their taxes for EVERYONE in order to keep above water. Greece is an example of a prominent failure in socialism.
So, yes you can have a bit of socialism and survive for a very short time, but not in the long term. Our country tried it and failed disastrously at the very beginning. Ever heard of the Mayflower Compact?
Yes, I consider today's liberals to be socialists. If you don't, then explain how and why you disagree. You are good at throwing questions out and then demanding someone to answer them. You answer questions, if you want to be treated with respect. You think you are so witty by throwing out cr@p when you know someone is not there to answer, so you can look like you won your argument. All you did was make a snarky comment and left the forum. Childish.
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I drop in and drop out of the forums....as do many here.
If it were not for Social Security and Medicare most of the current generation of senior would be in huge trouble. I for one, as my company was sold 3 years before I retired and the new one frozen our pensions during our highest earning years and did not honor the pledge to keep retiree healthcare. With my preexisting conditions I would NEVER get health insurance in the open market.
I agree that pure socialism fails but mostly because of the people receiving it not the system its self.
Just because someone is to the left of you doesn't make them:
1. A liberal....there really are moderate Democrats
2. A socialist .... you are confusing liberals with progressives ( I will provide a link to a source on that)
U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders reminds America
3. While I support social programs for the poor and sick I don't think these programs should support people for years. Like this morning on,WESH News I think, they were reporting on welfare fraud. A middle aged women is accused of stealing additional money from welfare. She said "I'm on assistance for 16 years I know the rules" I thought you look well enough to work why have you been on welfare for that long? Welfare has its place as a short term solution.
I think this link expresses the kind of The United States I would like to return to:
No Really
But to sum that up for me is this paragraph:
the elected government has a responsibility to ensure that the functioning of a market economy adequately provides for basic needs for everybody
For years now corporations do NOT take care of their employee's, I know because I worked for a corporation that did for many years. Dr. Beckman's motto was
"There is no substitute for excellence" part of that meant we, the employee's we empowered to do the best job for our customer's. We made profits and had happy employees.
In corporations now almost everyone is afraid at Christmas because there could be another massacre. I left my job early, taking a package, to save a younger persons job.
The middle class, the engine of this country, are being pushed into poverty. No jobs, less benefits while the corporations are making big profits and stuffing the money offshore to avoid taxes. Why should I pay 18% tax rate on my income while companies like Merck, Segate and General Motors pay 0% taxes.
I did not and still do not believe supply side economics works...Maybe you could explain why, I think, you support it?
Hopefully I have answered your questions