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Originally Posted by Guest
Ok, how about this since you didn't seem to get my long diatribe.
Trump wins the nomination by delegates, perhaps Hillary wins. That's a chance that might happen.
If no one gets the needed delegates and Trump is leading and the convention gives it to someone else, Hillary wins. Because takes Republican votes in a third party run.
So, either way Hillary wins, or will she? You don't have confidence in the voter. If the convention gives the nomination to someone else, they will lose a great quantity of Republican voters. The RNC can disband if they do that, because it will be suicide.
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GOT your point.
Your premise is why the movement on now to stop him. In the 60's this kind of thing happened and there was rioting in the streets actually.
Actually, you are correct, the Republican party was screwed pretty much when he began his "movement". Only hope for them is to beat him outright. He is intent on this and is destroying the party and you are right......if denied they will lose this cycle in many ways, but gotta tell you....because of what he has done, they will lose them anyway...whether he is stopped before or after.
I don'T think you are understanding what is happening here. Let me touch briefly on the congressional problem
There are 469 total seats up this November. Already, PUBLICLY, many are saying they will not support the candidate if it is Trump. Senate has been told they do not have to and will not be punished. They movement will snowball.
With him at the top of the ticket, as with any election like this, Democrats will wipe out every single majority held at present with great ease.
You are correct, he must be stopped prior to the convention or this party can start drawing up some sort of last will and testament. Imagine just for starters on national tv, the convention where the candidate WILL be booed and delegates will walk out. Great start.
I do not think you understand what a terrible horrendous candidate Trump is. Everyone on here likes to make fun of Clinton...do not mean actually make fun, but point out all her "warts".
Trump is a man who has engaged, more than once in fraud..one outstanding now with the state of New York. He is a serial philanderer and has admitted it many times in public. He literally knows not one single thing about government...everyone speaks of Reagan...he was a successful governor before he ran. He has shown a total lack of not only the issues, but the law. He has convinced followers that he can just do things and he cannot and trust me, he will get zero help from congress (even the Republicans). If he begins to mouth off to other countries, well lets just say we might be disrespected now but that will be a drip compared to what our allies will feel about us. Those we need to talk to (nuclear countries, etc.) will....well, lets not guess at that. The promises he has made on trade, economy etc...he just cannot do and most have been shown to be ridiculous as with his budget cuts. He has a simplistic view of immigration and our streets will be filled with....well filled...if he even tried to do a portion of what he says.
Now, it is already out there that he has told the NYTIMES that he is just blowing smoke to get the nomination. That he really will not do that stuff. It is an off the record conversation so it cannot be released without his ok and he is not going to do that (as with releasing his taxes) thus he is basically admitting he is lying as the other candidates have tried to show.
There is so much more and the voters who are mad at Obama are simply enabling him by voting as they are. They are going to end up NOT with 4 years more of Obama policies but many more until the party can recoup.
There is a reason for all the backlash. It is obvious the party is going to be history if he gets his way. In an novel, this would be pre planned and part of another Clinton plot. It IS going to get her elected despite all the reasons not to.
Who ever thought a worse candidate was available and the Republican party would have him as a candidate. TALK about worst case scenarios.
Yes, it will be a disaster at the convention but one made only by HIM and those enabling him and who just will not wake up to the lies.