Originally Posted by Guest

And how many of your friends, neighbors, golf buddies have visited China as a private citizen? Given China's proclivity to totally ignore human rights and willingness to imprison anyone who speaks against China, its leaders and Communism, do you proclaim those visitors to be non-patriotic as well? Visiting a nation for whatever reason does not make someone love their country less, it frequently means a simple desire to see something new and different.

All of the name calling here is ridiculous at best, embarrassing to say the least, hurtful at worst. It is inexcusable by either side. You boys really should try sticking to the issues. This forum would be so much more enjoyable.

Oh, and, yes, I'm a liberal but most definitely not a "libtard" (what a truly awful thing to call another person).

Red