You change no one's mind on these forums. You only end up disliking or disrespecting one another. I am always fascinated though, by our differences in beliefs/opinions. How does one person come to believe so strongly in "her" view, and someone else's view be so diametrically opposed to that view. We all have the same input sources available to us. I read the right, left and middle plus several foreign papers almost daily. My thoughts are based on a wide variety of sources and history. It's a shame things can't be discussed at length with point/counterpoint so we all end up with some consensus . We may both learn something new and garner a fuller understanding of the world at large.
The amount of hate in this country amazes me. Instead of working toward understanding with knowledge, many form radical beliefs based on very little actual fact.
Keep your drawers on Handi, I am not referring to you.