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Originally Posted by billethkid
Please keep in mind many of us the challenge is being able to be out there.
Just how many strokes could possibly be attributed to bad pin placement.
Sorta related. How many can honestly say playing the courses with the "big" holes has improved their game/score?
Eliminating all water and underbrush and bushes and woods would help a lot more. 
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BTK - I would add sand to your list as well.
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