I wasn't complaining, and I almost always agree with his thoughts and comments on here. A good conversation is one where there is no name calling and everyone leaves with respect of the others opinion. My comment was not meant to bait, but encourage an exchange of each poster's view on their ideology. Believe it or not, Democrats were not always this liberal. Kaine is hard for some liberals to swallow because he is a moderate Democrat. Trump is hard to figure because he has "evolved" as Obama would say in his views on issues. I totally reject Hillary, because she does NOT fit a particular ideology. She is selfish and self centers far more than any politician I have seen to date. I do not agree with Obama on just about anything, but that is his ideology and his policies. Hillary is not a politician, but a cancer. And once again I digress.