Originally Posted by Guest

I'll have to disagree.

The callousness, racism and denigration of minorities (and women) by a number of folks in this forum....IS political.

The OP's intent was to mock black's being killed for the egregious act...of simply being black.

As if they themselves, did something to earn the good fortune...of being born white.

Sadly, that is a huge insight into the thinking of a lot of the folks on the right...and to Trump's popularity.





CNM

Originally Posted by Guest

Get your facts straight. There is only ONE poster on here that is doing those things. And he is NOT a Republican, if you had paid attention.

No, this is not politics. This is just someone's rant and you have been sucked into it, just as others. If you want to argue the merits of being white or black or other, female, hemale or shemale, then all you are going to do is open yourself up for more ridicule. I believe we are divided enough without encouraging more racism, or bigotry.

And you are just as guilty as the others, with your baiting and agitating posts. You don't know how to be mature about a discussion.

I've got better things to do than talk about anyone's feelings being hurt or inequality perceived by any group. I treat people as I want to be treated and then if they screw me over, they are dead to me.

Originally Posted by Guest

The original post was, at best, offensive. Strangely, the fact that a black man wasn't accosted in a white neighborhood is a rarity. Here, they are pretty safe but the same wouldn't be true in an exclusive white neighborhood in, say, Orlando. Being a black male, regardless of age or financial status, does not preclude them from being routinely stopped by police just to make sure they "belong" in that neighborhood. White mothers don't have to teach their sons to be extremely respectful when pulled over for a traffic violation nor to keep both hands on the steering wheel where an officer can see them at all times. White sons don't have to call their mothers every night to let them know they survived the day without incident. These are all the way of life for a black man in this society. It's true in Florida, the Deep South, the Northeast, the Midwest, even California.

I have seen some of the most bigoted comments made on this forum that absolutely astound me. And they've come from men claiming to be supposedly from relatively intelligent and successful. I cannot believe that anyone would believe that our society would be better if women were forced to stay in the kitchen. Barefoot and pregnant is not a great way of life. Sending blacks back to Africa would mean the loss of many great people here.

Those that are under the wonderful illusion that minorities, females, et al., are treated equally and fairly in this society are just mistaken. I keep hoping true equality will occur but I know it won't be in my lifetime but things have vastly improved from the days I went to college and started out in the workforce. So, I'm grateful for what has been accomplished but know it isn't enough. I don't want to go back to the fifties.

Red

Originally Posted by Guest

You're right, they are not "treated equally", they're treated specially, in what many call reverse discrimination.

I had the highest qualifications for a job back in the '70's, but was told by the board that I had to endure and wait because they were being sued for not having enough minorities to fill a quota. They actually lowered their requirements so they could hire those minorities. I came back every year for five years for that position before I got it. And most of those hired instead, were no longer there.

Another incident of discrimination was my cousin, now deceased. He was a fire fighter in a big city. He took the promotion exam and did very well. So did several other "white" members. They were skipped over so they could promote minority members that did not have their scores. He was lucky because he and the seven other members that were skipped over, sued the city and eventually won a discrimination suit. He was given two promotions and back pay. Several of the others were already retired by the time they won, and got back pay.

The government is also guilty of discrimination. I checked a promotion list and found out that the ONLY persons promoted in one area, were minorities either female, black or oriental.

Affirmative action is discrimination, no matter what you wish to call it. To be treated equally is NOT to have special treatment. To be treated fairly, advancement should be based on merit, NOT race, gender or especially sexual deviation.

Now, if you construe this a being bigoted, then I feel for you. You must have grown up in a very protected environment. I am not going to apologize for being white, but I am not going to disparage minorities either.

I do not slander minorities, but I will not give them special treatment either. As far as your beef regarding women, they get paid the same as men for the same jobs. That is a federal law. It is not my problem if they spend much time off with their children when the child is sick or when the lady wishes to have children. That is their prerogative. It's their choice. It is NOT my problem and I do not feel that they should be given special treatment in the workplace. A business needs employees to survive and if their important employee can't come to work, then the business suffers. Business does not make profit by coddling special groups.

This forum is here for the purpose of discussing political issues. If you want to make everything personal, that's to your detriment. If our resident racist wishes to make everything a "minority" issue, that is going to take it's toll on his health eventually. I prefer to ignore him, rather than argue with him. You are not going to convince him out of his many years of bigoted philosophy. He has set his mind and it is useless to bother with his ilk.

I do not, or seldom agree with you but I do not take our differences personal. You have a liberal manner of seeing things and I have a more conventional and conservative way of looking at life. We differ, and that's what makes America great. But, do not attempt to group all of us as one group, based on the actions, bile that comes from only one poster on here.

Originally Posted by Guest

I feel your comments are very simplistic and quite myopic.

As if no white person was ever taught by their parents to be respectful to officers!

The bigoted comments I see here, seem to come
from only one or two, and I personally experience
many races coming together in a positive way day
in and day out! But it seems there are some race baters that prefer there weren't true.
Or maybe some haven't had those positive experiences!

In my work life over the years, I have seen women given every opportunity for personal advancement and fulfillment,
in fact the last two corporations I worked
for were owned and run by a women!

The 50's had a lot of good and surely some bad,
and present times are no different,
having some good and also the bad!

When basic human nature changes, then we might
see some real progress, but I don't foresee that happening soon.