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06-12-2008, 10:14 PM
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Re: THIS LADY HAS A POINT
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Originally Posted by redwitch
Let me see if I have this straight. According to Muncle slips and gaffes shouldn't count but how many times has Muncle mentioned Obama's slip about the 57 states, including in this thread? Guess they only don't matter when they pertain to McCain?
They've both made some misstatements. Most have been minor, a couple have been serious. They'll both make many more before the election. Let's cut them both a little slack. If we truly think the misstatement is serious, then mention it, debate it and then let it go. If it is a simple slip of the tongue, just let it go and don't bring it up.
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Okay, if you're accusing me of it, let's look:
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Originally Posted by Muncle
When we harp on the gaffs a candidate makes, regardless of the side, we say more about our absence of reasonable arguments. Whether it be Dan Quayle spelling potato incorrectly, one of GW's infamous misstatements, Big Al claiming to invent the internet, or Bubba decrying the church burnings in Arkansas that never happened, we simply avoid discussing actual important items. Liberal jackels are quick to condemn McCain as senile because he confuses Shia and Sunni, not an uncommon error amongst anyone referring to the region, or references Putin as President of Germany in a midst of a statement that started with him saying he was in a conference in Germany and President Putin of Germany . . . But what do they say when Obama refers to having toured all 57 states? Right wing nuts use this as proof that Obama is a Muslim terrorist since there are 57 Islamic states. If McCain makes bloopers because he's senile, does Obama do so because he's ignorant? Equally asinine reactions. These guys speak publically 24x7. They're always on camera or on tape. Anyone makes a slip of the tongue and to attribute any greater meaning says more about the stupidity of the person making the assertion than the character or abilities of the politician.
HOWEVER, if one of these folks were to make a similar blunder as a integral part of a prepared presentation and continued with the thought, e.g.., had McCain actually confused Putin and Merkel and attributed Merkel's action in Germany to Putin or had Obama started rattling off the states as Iowa, Dubai, Montana, Indonesia, Arizona, Yemen, etc., there'd be a problem. A slip is a slip and means nothing. Saying something you really mean but did not mean to say out loud for public consumption is not an innocent slip of the tongue. It is a gotcha, and should be attacked with all vehemence.
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Originally Posted by Muncle
Thank God you have Obama to protect the 57 states!
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Which was a direct reply to:
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Originally Posted by junglejim
As Mcain told the (small) crowd recently, he’s super qualified to be President due to his extensive foreign policy experience dealing with Vladimir Putin…the President of Germany.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ENwej0fpc
Come on people.......we don't need another term of this BS.
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As is patently obvious to the most casual observer, the only mention I ever made of Mr. Obama idiotic, some say Freudian, slip of referring to the 57 States was to point out the asininity of harping of such things. I may at some time have referred to Heinz 57 Varieties or the '57 Milwaukee Braves, but not Mr. Obama's 57 States. Now quite possibly you've been giving a lot of thought to Mr. Obama's 57 State comment (there, I've repeated it more times in this paragraph as I've written it in the entire forum) because you're beginning to question your seeming preference for, at best, an empty suit. But I cannot say that with any certainty as I'm not a psychiatrist or even psychologist. I really don't know why.
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