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Originally Posted by 2BNTV

According to the DS, the lawsuit was filed 8 years ago. The person mentioned in the article was Louis Schwarz.

The LLC tried to resolve this lawsuit with many accomodations towards the plaintiff's but the plaintiffs rejected all overtures. The DS indicated the plaintiff's were looking at LLC, as a cash cow. The article also stated that was not the case and it will be closed.

I hope these plantiffs are proud they denied many others the joy of learning and denying other of there jobs. What mean spirited people. IMHO

Shame, shame, shame, on them.

This and so many others are completely absolutely false. Repeating a lie over and over does not make it the truth. There was exactly one attempt made to help the hearing impaired not many accommodations and it was useless. Read the court document. The judge said the result produced by the speech to text program was not useful. There was no other accommodation attempted in the eight years this has been going on.
Don't trust the Daily Sun to give you information on the case, read the case file. Read the pleadings of the plaintiffs and the defense and the careful analysis of the Federal judge.

And some of you seem not to understand despite repetitions that the judge did not, repeat did NOT, use the ADA to make any determination against the Villages in fact he specifically ruled that the ADA did not apply in this case.
The plaintiffs did not reject any overtures. They agreed to try to use the Dragon speech to text system and it was inadequate, not just according to the plaintiff but also to the judge. No other overtures were offered per the court record.

There are so many posts containing outrageous statements.
Chatbrat

:--guess I'm the only person who cares about the 200 full time employees who are soon to be unemployed,this means they lose health insurance & their children can't TV charter schools

The LLC does not have 200 full time employees. In fact the court documents indicate that there are only FOUR employees of the LLC according to the defense. How you all get from four to 200 is amazing.

Although the Charter School Corporation notes that the LLC "has a staff of only four full-time employees", see Defendant's Supplement at 5 n.11

Is there any possibility that this will affect the free clubs and exercise classes offered at the rec centers?

No, read the document

Graciegirl: MANY of the classes of The Lifelong Learning College are/were held in The Villages High School after hours. I guess it was the BUILDING that was deemed unusable for handicapped people.

Wrong, read the document

In my opinion, this is an example of an agency that has overstepped it's goals

No agency was involved in any way in this litigation. It involves the interpretation by the court of federal law. The government did not file this suit. No agency became involved in any way.

Villagetinker

It is too bad that there was no middle ground on this, for example, having a few sign language personnel available for classes IF REQUESTED, or something similar

This is exactly what the plaintiffs requested and it was refused

Bonnievie

from my reading of the legal document. they initially went after the Resident Lifestyle Groups....but it appears the case was not as strong, so then they went after the LLC

You are misunderstanding the process. They never "went after" the RLG's. The entire first part of the document explains how the programs work. There was not any ever any attempt to go after the RLG nor did they change targets. The plaintiff's lawyers did what all good attorneys do, they named all possible entities to be sure that they didn't miss one that all the others could then say was the one in charge.

Henryk

Speech-to-text is often garbled on television, too. Maybe the jerks can sue the networks, too.

Here is what the court said about the product

The Court's independent review of the Lecture Transcript reveals that it is, indeed, difficult to follow

I have a question so if you lost your legs would you sue the villages because you can't golf?

I have a question for you. Did you know that the golf course in fact provides a special golf cart for those with profound physical handicaps so they can golf?

It is obviously about this guy and those behind him wanting to make big money in a lawsuit

No, it is about some of our neighbors wanting to have help with being able to participate in the classes at the LLC. Had they been accommodated there never would have been a lawsuit.

Lesdavnator

I haven't seen the lawsuit but it seemed as if they sued for money not reform

Amazing that you have not seen the lawsuit but know the motivation of the plaintiffs.

And I am a huge supporter of the ADA. I won awards for the work I did hiring handicap employees and providing them with the equipment and tools to be able to work. And to a person they were excellent employees. And I had a sign person in front of every meeting I held with more then 10 people.

And if the LLC had done that there would be no lawsuit and no closure. And they did not ask for a sign person at every class, just those where help was needed.

And gracie gets the last word:

Someone wants to make a big deal out of something that really didn't need fixing

Somehow I don't think she thought that about the huge costs of special education for children with learning disabilities because that change in the law benefitted her and her child. And in spending that extra money, lots of extra money, to help to teach Gracie's child and thousands like her, we are all better off, as a community and a country.