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Dear Guest: I am not arguing that Putin hasn't been making inroads into our government via cyber attacks nor that he hacked the DNC, attempted to hack the RNC and just about every government agency in this nation.
What I am arguing is that Obama, CIA< FBI< DOJ have been focused on partisan politics and not the security of this nation. I am arguing that Obama is obsessed about his legacy falling apart starting on Jan 20. I am arguing that Obama sat back for 8 years and let Russia walk all over him. I am arguing that what motivated Obama to level sanctions against Russia was not their hacking per se but rather his motivation as an attempt to boost credibility to his canard that Russia's hacking caused Hillary to lose the election
By the way Russia cyber abilities have been second rate for a long time. Suddenly they have achieved competency
Do you suppose the celebrated whistle blower idolized in the Oliver Stone movie has anything to do with Russia's ability to penetrate our cyber securities systems . Edward Snowden traitorous act has given both Russia and China a gateway to this nations secrets and if he returns he ought to be tried as a traitor and if found guilty sent to Gitmo
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Okay...
You seem to be more concerned about an outgoing president and a failed candidate. You denigrate our national intelligence agencies.
The question was the relationship our incoming President has with Russia, and you made it all politics.
I am an American and as I responded I am concerned.
You imply by mentioning fake news, the ineptness of our country's agencies, that as Trump says, he does not believe it. Of course you saying about not believing our country's agencies does not bother me, but our incoming President is a different story.
You cannot discuss this subject without mentioning whether Trump won or not. He won..not the point. Never was. This is not political yet, that seems to be your thrust.
As to the timing you also mentioned in your first post...I wonder what the reaction would have been if Obama had done anything right before the election...outrage I suspect.
You, and your ilk make every conversation involving these rethinks about Obama and Clinton.
I fault Obama for many things, but this might be the first time in history we have 2 working "presidents". As you clearly stated, as has Trump, you are not confident about our own country...Putin, being smart plays the game and plays to Trump.
People on this forum keep talking about ...gee, he is not even president yet...then why the hell doesn't he shut up and support his country. Breitbart featured 7 things they complain Obama is doing to Trump...all of them get featured on this forum, almost word for word.
This is how you began your response on this thread "Wow given the animosity toward Trump coming from Obama and his band of merry men and women. and given the lame street media's penchant for fake news, hyperbole, misinformation, bias its difficult to ferret out anything from Washington and news."
What does that mean other than you are simply casting doubt on anything Russia did....the "lame" street media has never been guilty of fake news....this happened.
Again, responding to the OP, I stand behind my concern. Russia is a thug country, and considered as such by the world. Because Trump likes them, you guys on here find it difficult to tell it like it is. Let's do what your idol Trump said...come together as a country. Thus far, he and you folks on here simply cheer for Russia, degrade all our institutions, including the press...rising the National Enquirer into normal news......not much of pulling people together...I think for Trump he finds it impossible UNLESS it is ALL about and only him
Sorry for going on, but simply tired of every thread being turned into a vas Obama, bash Clinton affair(Clinton bashing at this point makes no logical sense). It is tough to talk about real concerns because you guys will turn it so you can attack anyone but Trump..who has become our co President.
If you respond, you will simply continue the same dialogue...all American institutions are bad, because strictly of Obama, and although Clinton is nothing at all, you will stick her in somewhere.
If Trump Foundation, which is a total fraud comes up, you people twist it to Clinton. You are truely amazing, and have become hard core extremist flying the alt right flag.
I am probably the dumb guy, but I concur with the OP...I AM greatly concerned about Trump and Putin, made worse because I believe n my heart he owes millions, maybe billions to that country and its banks