Let me ask you another question.

There are a number of posters on here, who now assail me because i do not trust Trump at all.

Those same posters WITH ME BY THE WAY, assailed President Obama for "relationships" with Rev Jeremiah Wright and to the works of Sal Alinsky. I mean, they agreed with me and frankly I made a fool of myself by dwelling on it.

NOW...PRESENT day, those same posters and you of course are just fine with the President elect and this....

"A new video raises questions about President-elect Donald Trump's relationship with Joseph "Joey No Socks" Cinque, who once reportedly survived a mob hit and was associated with the infamous mob boss John Gotti.

The video shows Trump ringing in the new year on stage with Cinque at his Mar-a-Lago hotel in Palm Beach, Florida. The Secret Service told CNN everyone who attended the party was subject to screening via a metal detector.
Cinque was convicted in 1989 of criminal possession of stolen art, a felony. He was sentenced to "conditional discharge" in 1990, according to records provided by a New York Supreme Court clerk. CNN was told the actual indictment was destroyed in a fire.

Trump celebrates new year with convicted felon - CNNPolitics.com

Then of course there is this information...always available...

"Most of the coverage of the links between Trump and Putin’s Russia takes the GOP presidential nominee at his word—that he has lusted after a Trump tower in Moscow, and come up spectacularly short. But Trump’s dodge—that he has no businesses in Russia, so there is no connection to Putin—is a classic magician’s trick. Show one idle hand, while the other is actually doing the work.

The truth, as several columnists and reporters have painstakingly shown since the first hack of a Clinton-affiliated group took place in late May or early June, is that several of Trump’s businesses outside of Russia are entangled with Russian financiers inside Putin’s circle.

So, yes, it’s true that Trump has failed to land a business venture inside Russia. But the real truth is that, as major banks in America stopped lending him money following his many bankruptcies, the Trump organization was forced to seek financing from non-traditional institutions.

Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia

"This weekend, we finally learned the CIA’s professional conclusion about Russia’s involvement in our presidential elections: Russia hacked both the Democratic Party and the Clinton campaign, and the goal was to help Trump win. And the CIA isn’t out on a limb here: both the director of National Intelligence, who represents all 16 intelligence agencies, and the head of Homeland Security, have said Russia was behind the hacking. The FBI also holds Russia responsible for hacking, but hasn’t reached a conclusion about its motives.

We are only beginning to process the fact that a foreign country interfered with American democratic elections. But when it comes to Russia and its relationship with Donald Trump, the election hacking may be only the tip of the iceberg. The American public doesn't have access to the data the intelligence community—all 16 agencies combined—have on the Russian government, its banks and oligarchs, and their relationships with Trump's campaign, his business ventures, and the president-elect himself. That must change before January 20. The information needs to be made public."

Here’s What America Needs to Know About Trump and Russia - POLITICO Magazine

"We know, per Donald Trump Jr., that Russia makes up a significant amount of the family business. What we don’t know is how much Russian money is involved, and what Russian money. How did Trump get out of debt? To whom does he owe money? "


There is so much more but somebody has to explain the outrage in 2008 on this very forum about Wright and the writings of Alinsky versus the complete satisfaction of accepting a proven liar at his word with all the evidence that is available ?

Did the moral standard change in some way ?

Are liars then not liars now ?

I do not get it. Suddenly the very same people who longed for moral leadership now suddenly worship at the feet of a man who is proven liar and all those other words you can attach and on this very forum and now we praise on another thread the words of Assange, who is a purported sexual criminal and lives in exile.

We praise Assange, a man who Paul Ryan calls ""sycophant for Russia,"

Paul Ryan: Assange a 'sycophant for Russia' - Business Insider

In what name do we honor these people, including an incoming President of the United States who assailed and mocked the intelligence commynity, openly in public for the world to see. AND then sided with Assange and Putin. publicly and openly for the world to see?

This is "making america great again" ?

Is the intelligence community considered the swamp ? Are those hard working people who work 24/7 considered punks and liars by a man who has done LITERALLY NOTHING ever for his country ?

it seems to me that you who profess you want America great again have no idea of what that means.