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Originally Posted by DB
So a woman that is not from a tight knit family, and shares your sisters inability to judge men, should cost me taxes for 3-5 years?
And a person that loses their printing job (that industry is dying...) and is holding out for another printing job, should cost me taxes for 1-2 years? How about the guy who lost his job because he was looking at porn on company time, and is having a hard time finding another job as a girls volleyball coach...should he get a 1-2 year vacation watching porn at his home and I have to pay taxes for him??
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Originally Posted by COpuff
I did clearly answer the questions on how long someone should be allowed to collect welfare.
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No, you did not. You gave a rough outline and I followed up with some detailed questions that would illustrate it is more complicated than your statements.
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Originally Posted by COpuff
My sister has only been married once, she married a graduate of the Air Force Academy who she had dated for at least 2 years. He was supposed to be an officer and a gentleman however actually he had narcissistic personality disorder. Being the good Catholic she stayed married to him for 20 years until she could not take it anymore. She never went on welfare or food stamps as the family took care of her and the kids. That included the immediate as well as the extended family when it came to college money.
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So your sister married a wingnut that liked to speak in acronyms, and loved the attention of others. It took her 20 years to discovered that she could not change a leopards spots...20 years most likely is due to codependency, she will most likely be attracted to another narcissist. If you post a picture of her, you might find someone on here that would be glad to help fill her void... ;-)
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Originally Posted by COpuff
Both my parents were working class and I grew up with stories about the hardships they faced during the Great Depression. What a life saver FDR and his programs were to the working class. They and my faith taught me to care for the people less fortunate than myself. My father used to say be glad when you are paying taxes because it means to made MONEY.
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All our parents worked hard and grew up with struggle...what about our children? Can they work hard enough to pay for all the help we have given to the less fortunate than you?? I hope your dad is still around, ask him if he wished they had taken less out of his paycheck so he could have helped his own family more.
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Originally Posted by COpuff
Obviously you were not raised with these same values. I have stated in other posts I don't believe welfare should be a vocation and I think many people, including entire families abuse the disability program.
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You have no idea what my values are, you might wish to rephrase to "I assume" in lieu of "Obviously".
Yes - you did elude to some of that, but then you threw out a blanket of 3-5 years for the woman that is a poor judge of men and a 1-2 years for the person that was looking for a job.
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Originally Posted by COpuff
Even Jesus said "Give to Caesar that is Caesar and to God what is God"s" So paying taxes is in the Bible. We don't get to decide on what they pay for only that we have to pay them. At least we have no state taxes here.
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I am Agnostic, so paying MORE taxes so others don't have to support themselves is not a indicator of me being a better person. Feeling sorry for someone to the point that you hold them back in life, is not helping, it is more of that codependency stuff.