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Originally Posted by Guest
One at a time....
1. "Why is it that the left is jumping all over the fact that there has been no proof (yet) of wire tapping of the president by the former Obama administration, but they keep harping about Russian ties when it has been definitely stated by pretty much all of the intelligent agencies that there was no such collusion. "
You forget where this started and how it all began. President of the USA made a public and extremely serious charge of a felony by the past President with no even hint of proof. This was begun by Trump.
Nobody is harping over Russian ties to Trump. The investigation is about Russian involvement in our election process.
These are two huge, major things then add a National Security Advisor being forced to resign because he is a foreign agent....the many multi personal ties to Russia. Actually, this is all Trumps creation.
2. "And again, think about the fact that if there was something that the president wanted to do with regards to national security that you believe strongly in or that has been proven without a doubt, a lower level appointed judge could stop it from happening.
What if this judge came in and put a freeze on one of President Obama's executive orders?
We have to get above politics and look at this as an issue of national security and a properly functioning government.
Just because you agree with this guy's decision, doesn't mean that the procedure is the right way for us to operate. I don't believe that the system of checks and balances includes lower courts. If an executive order is to be challenged, and halted, it should be done so by a majority vote of the USSJC, not one individual lower level presidential appointee.
If this ban was for national security would not Turkey and Saudi Arabia be part of it ? They have been the origin of almost all the terrorist attacks in this country done by immigrants to this country.
Secondly, if you read the ruling, you will find that once again this is a creation of Donald Trump. I am not a constitutional lawyer but the Presidents own words are now being used and rationally the court is correct. He said what he wanted to ban over and over and over again...he made that his intent. Had he not mouthed off once again, I think this last one might well have been approved and still might be on appeal, BUT THIS IS AGAIN A CREATION OF TRUMP.
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First, if you've read all of the posts in this thread you'll see that several people have been bringing up the fallacy that President Trump has ties to Russia.
The national security advisor was not a foreign agent. He did some work for a Turkish/American businessman and because there may have ben a hint of impropriety, he resigned.
As to the countries included in the ban, the list was compiled by the Obama administration as countries that posed a danger to the US.
The fact that the courts have looked at President Trump's words during the election and did not make a ruling based strictly on the contents of the order and the law is precisely what is wrong with the ruling and the reason that it will eventually get over turned.