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Originally Posted by Guest
Of course, all of those thing you claim to be progressive reasoning are BS, but here is a list of conservative reasoning:
1. Corporations are people with free speech rights under the US Constitution and are legally allowed to spend as much money as they choose to influence the electoral process. (Citizens United)
2. The main objective of Republicans in Congress during a Democratic Presidency is to make sure the Democrat is a one term President, rather than to work together to do something good for the country and it's citizens. (Sen Mitch McConnell)
3. Obamacare must be repealed and replaced because it is a popular Democrat idea and not a Republican one. (Speaker Paul Ryan)
4. We want to start wars at the same time we decrease taxes and then complain about the budget deficit. (President George W. Bush)
5. It's important to elect an immoral, inarticulate, greedy, Russian controlled, compulsive liar to become POTUS, and then defend all of his ridiculous actions simply because he is a Republican. (Donald J. Trump)
6. We only care about our rich donors, so let's give them huge tax cuts that they don't need. Don't worry the middle class sheep will pay the bill because they can be controlled and convinced that the real problems in America are with moronic social issues like which bathroom we are allowed to pee in. (George W. Bush and the American Health Care Act)
7. Anyone who is poor in America is lazy and a drain on society. Cut them off, regardless of their lives, health, children, or future. (Speaker Paul Ryan)
8. If we give money to the rich, they will create jobs and the money will trickle down to the unwashed masses. This shall be known as Trickle Down Economics and we will espouse it regardless of how many decades it has failed. We also think if we have two dogs and give one a weenie, we can count on that dog sharing with the other. (President Ronald Reagan)
9. Continual war is the only way to keep the economy growing. (History)
10. Greed is good! (Gordon Gekko and American Fatcats)
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counter points.
1. Citizens United has been such a big thorn in progressives side that Obama actually reached out during his State of the Nation and mocked the Supreme Court. Why? Because Citizens United balanced the scales with Unions ability to force their membership not only to vote for the union's choice of candidate, but finance it with union dues.
2. Don't have any problem with the opposition working toward regaining the majority. However, I do have a problem when the opposition utilized the unethical and unsubstantiated attacks and intentional sabotaging be conducted by progressives today.
3. Obamacare was a completely partisan bill passed with the undertone that you had to pass it to see what was in it. Obamacare actuaries knew Obamacare would implode but that was the intent because progressives really wanted and want a single payer plan .
I am pleased that Republicans are having a real legislative debate because we haven't seen real politics at work for many years. Any changes to Obamacare in my view should be incremental.
4. We don't want to start wars we want to prevent wars from escalating. A strong defense has proved to be a deterrent against war. Obama leading from behind has indeed left us behind and we need to let our friends and foes that a new sheriff's in town
5. When Clinton was using the oval office for other than conducting business the progressive mantra was "character doesn't matter."
Obama is one of the most unethical non transparent backstabbing president to have served in the last hundred years. Finally we have Hillary's allegation as to Benghazi, personal e-mail server, Clinton charitable Foundation. Trump's doesn't seem to be creative with the use of cigars.
6. Don't believe me but check the zip codes and you will find the greater percentage of the so called 1% in this nation are Democrats.
7. Conservatives are not adverse to hand ups, and clearly there is a small % of a nation'spopulation that will always need a nation's help. However, one become a little curious when entitlements move from one generation to the next. One becomes curious when the average income considered to be below the poverty level far exceeds the median level of income in other nations.
It should be an moral imperative of this nation to ensure that truly needy people are helped otherwise all we have accomplished is making economic slaves of able bodied people
Will what you say or say what you will but it has been an economic
fact since the forming of this nation that small businesses create growth and growth creates jobs....Obama has been suffocating businesses with regulations, etc . Look at the weak recovery we have had since 2009
9. see my comments in #4
10. Greed. Define greed. Profits are not an evil thing. However, I do have a major concern with corruption. So if greed is driving corruption then and that's what you mean then we agree.
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