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Originally Posted by chachacha
having health insurance and having health care are not the same thing...
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True...to a degree.
While they're not the same, having the insurance certainly allows a much better level of care.
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Originally Posted by chachacha
of course the ideal is for everyone to have insurance, but we always have had and always will have the safety net for those who can't afford it....
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Absolutely false.
What is this supposed 'safety net' of which you speak?
If you're talking about using the emergency room...then you are woefully ignorant of what EMTALA actually does.
Do you think you can go to the ER and get your chemo/radiation treatments for cancer on a schedule?
Do you think you can use the ER for wellness checkups, which are critical to ensuring that you can actually catch something early?
Have you ever heard of a woman getting a mammogram at an ER?
I could go on ad naseum, but you have been fed (and apparently believe) the lies from those who fit the description of the selfish, cold-hearted and black-hearted...I previously described.
In fact, these lies are being told for the sole purpose to try and make any decent Republicans feel better about opposing things like the ACA...or helping those less fortunate.
Because if they didn't believe that
"ah heck, those people get health care anyway so why should I care"...then they would have OT admit to themselves that they truly are self-serving.
Which is why I asked above, why can't y'all just frigging admit it?
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Originally Posted by chachacha
even illegal immigrants receive health care at the expense of the US taxpayer!
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LOL
That's what I thought you were going to say, so I've already addressed it above.
BUT, if you are a decent human being then educate yourself and then if you feel the same way...at least have the honesty and decency to admit that you don't give a $hit about others.
And yes, there will be times when undocumented human beings slip past and get medical treatment...so what?
In fact, I've had people tell me that they would rather deny free ER care to legal American citizens...rather than let even ONE illegal get it.
How depraved does one have to be...to feel that way?
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia
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Originally Posted by chachacha
the goal is to have good health care! when doctors are not accepting either the insurance nor the medicaid, then we do not have good health CARE! and the same is true for when deductibles are so high that the insurance is basically useless.
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Of course there are issues regarding the cost of care itself outside of the insurance, but let's first get all American citizens covered...so they have the ability to at least see a doctor.
Or are you going to finally admit...that you don't care about those people anyway?
I guarantee, there will be a handful of others here that will be piping in very soon and admitting that they don't give a $hit about other American citizens having health insurance...thereby proving me correct
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