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Originally Posted by Guest
show that only eight years ago that debates were much more sane and respectful and there wasn't the degrading ugliness that we see now. Here is an example;
06-20-2008, 02:47 PM
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Partisan Politics at it's Destructive Best? Worst?
While they debate back and forth, drill, no drill, alternative fuels, nationalize refineries, etc, etc, etc. They continue to bantor back and forth why the other has no idea what they are talking about. They are debating THEIR position.....not how to solve the problem.
There is already talk they will not get anything done before they go away on vacation.....I guess that shows the priority they have......party position first......constituency need doesn't even make their list of priorities.
That is not going to change until every single American adult writes their representatives and DEMAND a solution. They know all too well that the lazy American masses will never unite and demand the lawmakers fulfill their constitutional job......representing their constituency.
Demand they get in a room and not come out until a solution is put forth.
It doesn't matter whether a Dem or Republican when it comes to the ruination of our country by the non performing, arrogant so called lawmakers in Washington, DC.
The silent majority continues to get what it deserves.....NOTHING!!!!!!
BTK
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GRACIEGIRL....
I have so much to say on this....
First I agree with BTK post totally. I have been in contact with my representative both here in Florida and prior up north. I attend as many public meetings as possible. I have on going conversations with various political folks from both parties. I read everything from both sides I can get my hands on to determine my feeling on ISSUES.
Secondly, not sure where you were going with this, but BTK has changes quite a bit if we compare todays posts to then. Now, he simply posts anti Obama and anti Clinton words and condemns the criticism of Trump based on not the issues but simply because I assume he does not like it. THAT is what I see. I cannot read his heart but I even posted yesterday or the day before to him that his posts are a complete was of time...just post ditto marks.
Thirdly, you speak as if you are civil in your postings. You do not discuss issues ever, simply personalities,which seems to be your focus. I told you before and will say it again....
In the beginning the political forum was relatively civil for a political site. IN the last years, AND I RECOGNIZE YOU TOTALLY DO NOT ACCEPT THIS, but both sides moves extreme and as a founding member of this forum and one who was always after Obama and/or Clinton and demonized for it......the right...the conservatives have gone so far to the extreme alt right and they do not even see it.
To me, all of that was motivated by HATE of Obama and Clinton. I, personally simply differed with his policies, nothing else and that is not sufficient to hate another. I hate nobody and the move that you and others..BTK among them...have made to the extreme is....well, you once said THAT I was a disappointment....i suggest the same about a few posters who I supported strongly in the past on the original forum.
Your post earlier today was offensive to me. So many of the obscene talker, the name callers, the what evers on here, you have supported with great vim and vigor because, it appears they support Trump. In general supporting someone on forum because they back your chosen candidate is fine, but you cannot walk away from the negative side when you want to and become saintly.
If you support vile language or attack language when it is aimed at the correct party, you cannot be "holier than thou" when it comes back at you.
I have both criticized Trump and praised him, with the most being criticism. When I do, I offer real examples, real links, real stories to support what I say and I never use HATE as a word for my feelings for the man.
Of course, the fact that I actually supply links or facts is a source of great fun and games at the expense of those you choose to support loudly on here. You support the general condemnation of groups of people with no specifics given....just "ALL" democrats or "ALL" progressives.....on down with Muslims and blacks and those on welfare. (I guess those on welfare the color doesnt matter much or the HOW they got there)
So, excuse me......not sure what your intent here is but if it is to tone down that the general hate, the general accusations, the obscenities then I suggest you do it with action and ot words.
They simply fall short. Anyone who has been around knows what you are trying to sell here is pure and complete bunk.
Yep, strong language but I am specific when I criticize...not damning large parcels when I do.
If you wish, I will copy BTK post also from there....sorry BTK to bring you in to this but GRACIE chose you as an example...to make my point but I have read your posts about ROCKFACE going on and on. I feel a responsibility to back up what I say with facts...you should do the same.
I might add....if posters stuck with ISSUES instead of general condemnations of groups and talked about those issues, the animosity melts.
You failed to mention that the original political stayed with ISSUES for the most part. On here, not so much
Post 2 on this very thread, which I know from past posts you agree, would make my point