I tried to make this point but to no avail.

Plagarism in any form is LYING.

When you read this man's post, in many cases, they are not his words. That is simply lying and posting under false pretense.

In addition, we get lectures from he and Gracie about conformity to the rules. PLAGARISM is against the rules, and is stealing from the real source.

I was asked to look in the mirror. I do not plagerize and I do not steal, yet I am to look in the mirror.

Yes, perhaps ignoring this would make Rubicon and Graciegirl happy, but that is dishonest.

To Abby, who was at least non judgemental, this is a regular course for these two, and I suppose it could be ignored, but why ?

Are we to give people some sort of break and for what reason.

If I plagerize or tell a lie, you should call me on it and right away.

I have been stewing in this and asking why in the world should someone be able to do this and I, and others, asked to back off or examine our actions.

Rubicon, NOT ME, steals by plagiarizing.

Rubicon, not me then lectures me and others in following rules. What rules is he referring to.

I also expect if you want to make a case, you research and share your information for others to see.