Four degrees of work along with earning the money to get myself through these schools with some help from my family. I lived at home for instance while at the University of Nevada. Reno from 1976-1983. Got two BAs and started working on two MAs.

Then 26 years and counting of work on this Project. Started to see some respect for it from law librarians around 2000 but still hard to do it from outside the Law Librarianship profession even if I also do not have to deal with all the Academic Politics involved and all their committees, meetings and the like. They have committees to change light bulbs in the foyer.

And I did volunteer at two public libraries in Palm Harbor, FL., for 10-14 hours a week in 2000-2003. The Director Gene Coppola was a real jerk but did finally get around to actually putting stuff on his library-- Palm Harbor Library's-- website that will help victims/survivors of domestic violence. Had been trying to get my foot in the door for working in a library in a paid position but never got anywhere in the Tampa Bay area despite numerous job interviews many of these actually at libraries controlled by Gene Coppola.

All this is a hobby. Something I do out of love and a desire to help people who really need it. I did get the State of Nevada to forgive a stipend grant. In September 2000, they forgave a student loan debt for my MA from the U of Denver -- in the form of working in the State of Nevada as a Librarian-- for this work related to libraries even though I did it from Minnesota, California, Illinois and Florida in the 1990s.