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Old 04-25-2017, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Don
It's funny...the WHOLE relationship between a man and a women is 95% based on looks. The right look will win you 95% of the battle. Women dress to attract men...and it works.

Unless they've been leading you on earlier...then THAT is a problem. Most women's "problem" with men is because of our REACTION to women's behavior. You lead a man on...accept his dinner...drinks...suggestive dancing...and THEN say no...? I say it's time to "pay up"...you either give him half the nights bill or you lie down for a few minutes and let him do his thing.

Good for your daughter...I just hope she's not a user...doing what I described above. There are women who eat out ALL the time...almost every day...and have NEVER paid for a meal. They've never done a thing of value...but lie down and let a man do his thing.
I laughed a few times reading your post, and I can't argue with your logic...but I disagree on some of the views expressed with regard to dinner and drinks = she owes some tail.

I look at an opportunity to have dinner and drinks with a lady as a chance to get to know her, and her to get to know me. I want to know and like her, before I climb on her. If I asked her out, I should pay. If she did not like me that way, she does not owe me anything. That is just my opinion.

I would not consider my daughter a "user". She does go to dinner a lot, I don't believe she sleeps with everyone she goes to dinner with either. But things are different today in the dating world (she is age 22). They mostly go out in groups for dinner and drinks on first dates (takes the pressure off the expectations) and then they might go on private dates after they met at a group gathering (if the interest is there).

Last year she dated a guy for about 8 months that she met at a baseball game where she was doing some modeling for Ford. He treated her good and was very personable. He was a 24 year old millennial still living at home. His mother did EVERYTHING for him (laundry, cleaned room, cooked meals, made appointments). My daughter broke up with him because he was complacent and had no real direction or plans for the future.

So about 6 months or so later, she meets a new guy at a UM football game (she attends UM and is pursuing a nursing degree) and he asks her for a date and suggests she accompany him to a party being hosted by family friends on Star Island. He is in a fraternity, lives in a fraternity house, is attractive, and is very nice to her (opens doors etc). He went home to California for the winter break and towards the end of break; he calls her and asks if she would like to go with him skiing in Aspen at the families vacation home, the last weekend of break. She told him; she did not think that was possible as she could not afford airfare as she had just got back from Chicago. He said his dad would send their plane for her (Challenger 300). She asked for a address of where the vacation home was, so she could let her parents know where she would be that weekend. The house was 11.3 million on Zillow. She went and had a great time. He (and his family) invited her to go to Cabo for spring break (they have a place there too).

Well February comes along, and she is expressing unhappiness in the relationship. She says that the new boyfriend is treating her well, its just he is real similar to the old boyfriend. The only difference is his mother does not do everything for him, instead he gets a $2500 a month allowance and pays other people to do it for him...and he has no definite plans for the future. I guess she could have been a "user" , but instead she broke it off a week BEFORE they were supposed to go to Cabo.

An older friend of mine, told me to tell her "it was just as easy to love the rich ones as it was the poor ones". I never told her that, as she is way to motivated to put up with lazy people. She is in her final weeks of the last semester and she will have her degree (something neither one of the boyfriends was in a hurry to accomplish).