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Old 07-16-2008, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by golfpro
What I HAVE noticed on a few of these topics is that the same people are the insulting, unfamiliar with debate, Bush haters. That makes any further replies or discussion useless. I'm sorry for you all.

I also noticed some folks who just plain stay away from the political topic altogether. I'll bet they found what I have and have identified who I have.

So I will join them for the same reasons they gave. Too bad. TOTV is a nice blog with exceptions of course. I'm not into angry. Grew out of that long ago.
I still have not completed my task yet (will over the weekend). I do what to say something in regards to this real quick. I am new here, but I have already posted a lot. Look at them. I do not insult or name call, nor do I tolerate that. With that said, I do believe that Bush, and his neo-con administration is wrong, they have violated national and international laws, as well as crimes against humanity. I think it is a real shame that he was not impeached, and handed over to the international criminal courts to stand trial for what he has done. I think that would qualify me as a Bush hater.

But before you make any assumptions about my political standing, I think Bill Clinton should be next to him given that his sanctions on Iraq targeted children's medication for children who had diarrhea because Bush Sr blew up the water treatment plants in Iraq War I. Under Clinton the tools and parts to fix the plants were sanctioned, and since the children's medicine was also sanctioned, approximately 3,000 children died each month from preventable illness there.

I also think Reagan had problems (and McCain is part of this one) for violating international and national law when he went into Nicaragua and and funded and trained the Contra Terrorists who targeted churches for attacks and murder countless priests, nuns, farmers, police officers, and other innocent civilians. Matter in fact, the Nicaraguan government took their case to the International Court, who ordered the United States to stop their attacks on Nicaragua, in which we promptly responded with increased bombing.

I guess my point here is that you are trying to categorize people into these simple categories (bush hater = insulting, unfamiliar with debate). I for example (as I am trying to point out above) am not married to a political party nor do I take the right or left side. I believe in ideals like truth, justice, human rights, the spirit of the law, and the survival of the human race. I critically analyze all positions (including my own) and will be the first one willing to change my position in the cases where I discover I am wrong. To me it is these ideals with the desire to hold correct views/positions/beliefs that are more important than anything else. And to be honest, I think that is what makes me a liberal.

Now, I think we should get back to this thread....

And for the record, John Coleman is a meteorologist, not a climatologist. He simply lacks the expertise in this area. He went to school to learn weather patterns to make 14 day predictions. His 'findings' (if you can call them that as there isn't any real science behind them) has been largely discredited in the scientific community and he is not taken seriously outside the circle of right wing talk radio hosts. Simply put, he makes for good ratings but not good science. Not a personal attack, it is simply a factual one. That was kind of the point before, when looking at something like this issue, you need to go to the expert. Listening to a meteorologist on this is like letting a podiatrist preform open heart surgery. They may both be great doctors in their own fields, but if you haven't studied the inter workings of the heart, you are not going to operate on me. ;D