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Originally Posted by Guest
Let's see hmmmmm..........As is commonplace with any story reacting to Trump vis a vis Russia what was left out
Yates with her recounting of a visit with McGahn stated that the justice Department had evidence that Flynn lied to the WH about "certain problematic conduct"...but declined to specify what "conduct"
However, we know because of the Obama team penchant for "unmasking" and their "leaks"both of which are security breaches
and the real tragedy in all this was suppose to be that Flynn by his conduct he was vulnerable to "blackmail"
Yet the salient political fact is that Trump fired Flynn for misleading Pence, and this despite the lack of any real evidence that Flynn conveyed any truly compromising information to the Russians
All that is known is that Flynn made a passing reference with the ambassador to US sanctions against Russia so what was there to blackmail? So Trump based on the fact only that Flynn mislead Pence fired him. Something like when Obama fired Hillary for her devious acts...wait no he pushed her forward to be his successor
The important question is whether there was collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign? And yet, Yates has yet to turn up anything new on that score.
So what is left unspoken and unreported by the MSM is "who exactly did the unmasking since both Yates and Clapper admitted they reviewed classified information about Trump, et al, that they shared information with others and while they deny it, someone leaked this information to the press. This conduct in Watergate took down a president and made two liberal reporters rich, heroes
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I already posted a response to you on this but your lack of knowledge is so vast, this requires a bit more.
You said....
"Let's see hmmmmm..........As is commonplace with any story reacting to Trump vis a vis Russia what was left out
Yates with her recounting of a visit with McGahn stated that the justice Department had evidence that Flynn lied to the WH about "certain problematic conduct"...but declined to specify what "conduct"
Now let us see. You expect Ms Yates to testify in open hearing about what she told the White House on Flynn. I think I am saying it as you say it.......
You feel that she should compromise national security to publically spell out what he did or did not do ? Is that correct.
Gee....the WH knows what she said....if it were not troublesome why in the world does not your hero make it public ?
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You said...
"However, we know because of the Obama team penchant for "unmasking" and their "leaks"both of which are security breaches
and the real tragedy in all this was suppose to be that Flynn by his conduct he was vulnerable to "blackmail"
Yet the salient political fact is that Trump fired Flynn for misleading Pence, and this despite the lack of any real evidence that Flynn conveyed any truly compromising information to the Russians"
First I would ask you to define how you mean "penchant" for unmasking ? We know of one by Susan Rice, which she explained and you obviously have more information that the rest of us and why wont you share it ?
It is also apparent that you,
and possibly only you know who leaked what. WHY do you not share your source for that because I know of a congressional comm that would love to know.
I also wonder since you do not know what was told to the WH about Flynn and
neither does congress why would you question Ms Yates judgement ? OR do you know exactly what was told to the WH....you should be sharing all this information with congress Rubicon. EVEN YOUR HOLY WHITE HOUSE. They say she made a trip to the WH to "tell on Flynn" because it was sour grapes. That is interesting for sure along with the fact that it is admitted by Spicer that even President Obama warned Trump even before Ms Yates. We know how much Trump lied to US during this time and how he allowed Flynn to be involved in National Security after being warned.
My biggest question to you is
HOW you know all you claim as facts, since it appears nobody else does ?
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You said...
"All that is known is that Flynn made a passing reference with the ambassador to US sanctions against Russia so what was there to blackmail? So Trump based on the fact only that Flynn mislead Pence fired him. Something like when Obama fired Hillary for her devious acts...wait no he pushed her forward to be his successor
The important question is whether there was collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign? And yet, Yates has yet to turn up anything new on that score.
So what is left unspoken and unreported by the MSM is "who exactly did the unmasking since both Yates and Clapper admitted they reviewed classified information about Trump, et al, that they shared information with others and while they deny it, someone leaked this information to the press. This conduct in Watergate took down a president and made two liberal reporters rich, heroes
Again, you post as if you, and you alone know all these facts which are not known by man. This is a typical response of a man who believes every word from a man and a WH that has lied consistently and proven to be liars,
YET you adore this man so much you simply say that you, Rubicon, KNOW what nobody else in the country knows. That is really blind and stupid loyalty. I sincerely wonder whether you have any loyalty to this country or simply Trump. You make up stuff better than he does.
The important question in the hearing yesterday was
NOT "whether there was collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign?". That was not the purpose and you and your hero keep bringing that up. I have not heard one direct accusation from anyone about collusion...not one, YET you and he and his minions keep defending him for something.
Could you tell us what you are defending him from ?
The in inquiry was the result of the FBI investigation and not a witch hunt by opponents. It will take a long time, and the information thus far known has certainly not allowed any determination to be made by anyone BUT surely has not clarified and only made more 'smoke". The investigation is for
THE USA...and should be supported by and insisted upon by every single american. If you indeed prefer our security be threatened so that Trump can be loved, you are not really an american...you are someone endeared with one man only.
RUBICON, you obviously know "facts not in evidence". I have followed and hear pretty much all the panels and read everything I could on this. I have nothing to even allow me to say that Trump or his campaign did anything wrong, nor do I have any information that would allow me to say that an investigation of Russia involved in my country's affairs, and the many close ties to folks associated with Trump shows his or their innoncence. . Of course, you post that you have knowledge that even our congress does not have. so....
I quoted all you said because you have a habit of changing subjects, etc....ie, establishing a false narrative.
I cheer for this committee, not matter how long to find the TRUTH. The hearing yesterday, for me, clarified a lot. Flynn was allowed to continue working with our
NATIONAL SECURITY even though the WH was informed and warned by both a patriotic american, who you
WITH NO BASIS, accuse of leaking and the past President of the United States, but then again you accuse him of spying on Trump. No end to your accusations.
Just back to add....I doubt if you are rooting for this comm to find the truth, since your hero still does not believe that Russia was responsible for any action. He thinks this investigation is a hoax and a fraud, which seems strange for a President to say, but just allowing you to deny any of this, despite the entire complete intelligence community saying it with no degree of uncertainty....might add that profession of Russian interference is only doubted by two people in this world. President Trump and Rubicon. Also, might be wise to compare his tweet storm of today with the ACTUAL REAL TESTIMONY from yesterday, because as always he makes things up.