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Old 05-11-2017, 12:42 PM
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IF Trump was so beholden to the Russians, if he was getting ALL his loans from there because no American bank would touch him...WHERE are his tax returns? Where IS the evidence? SOMEONE in the IRS would have grabbed them and released them. Either his personal returns or his business returns would have page after page of Russian banks he's paying interest to.

I haven't seen anything...have you? Not ONE form from anywhere showing Russian bank loans to Trump. If they're there...with the rabidity of the Democrats to get rid of him...we'd have seen it.

This is a lot like the Obama birther thing...there never was a "wet ink" birth certificate, just a computer print out. Show us the proof.

MAYBE he DID fire these people because they ARE against the sitting president and they persist on looking for ANYTHING against him? I'd fire them too.
I doubt you will read any of this....that is exactly and precisely what Trump counts on from you folks.....trust me...Trump has been dirty his entire life. This may help explain the scope of this investigation that the President thinks is a waste.

Here is what flies in the face of your "logic".

The committe he fears is NOT...NOT N\investigating HIM, and have never said such a thing. HE is the only person who says that.

This began as an investigation into Russia interfering with our election and enough evidence was gained to take it to investigating ties that are there between the Trump CAMPAIGN and Russian interference.

NO ONE....NOBODY has ever made an accusation against him. HE, on the other hand makes it all about him.

This is why so many are so upset. WHY would not the President of the United States want this investigation to continue ? WHY would the President of the United States try to stop this investigation ?

Lets talk about "loans" as you call them.

"The Senate panel has requested information about President Donald Trump and his top aides from a financial intelligence unit in the Treasury Department that imposed a $10 million civil penalty on Trump Taj Mahal in 2015 for multiple violations of money-laundering laws.

The Senate Intelligence Committee wants to see any information relevant to its Russia investigation the Treasury agency has gathered, including evidence that might include possible mon
ey laundering, according to a committee aide who spoke on condition of anonymity. Also at issue: to what extent, if at all, people close to Vladimir Putin have invested in Trump's real estate empire."

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/10/russi...og-agency.html

IT is not as simple as you think, and to his returns....subpoenas can get them if issued...no need to leak.

Here is another wrinkle....this from a Dutch News site....

"How the Dutch Media is on the paper trail of Trump money laundering in the Netherlands

Cool, calm and collected – everything Donald J. Trump is not, Dutch media are calmly but steadily on the trail of what could best be described as toilet paper hanging from his pants. You can try and deny it but the facts are there, Donny. We look for you at night.

Back in 2009 Barack Obama called the Netherlands a tax haven, together with places like the Cayman Islands, and struck the Dutch right in our tiny, little sensitive hearts. But was he wrong? Well, there’s some nuance to it, but the country is earning some sweet pocket money for this side gig. But it appears that the Netherlands’ banking system may actually have one little gem in store for former president Obama and a total nightmare for “President 45”.

You see, Trump used to be a “successful” businessman – given you ignore all the bankruptcies and lawsuits – and did many investments through a company called Bayrock. Guess where this Pokémon-sounding investment company is headquartered? Tax Haven Holland!
Oh, and ZEMBLA has all the little receipts – it’s pure money laundering, by setting up in the Netherlands in 2007, it laundered $1,5 million dollars. And the company is in hot water already, the State of New York is doing investigations into their tax fraud, large scale tax fraud – and Donald is a key figure. According to attorney F. Oberlander – prosecuting on behalf of New York State – the maximum jail term could be as long as 30 years! But it doesn’t end there! There’s more! This was just the appetizer!

Now we’re heading for the steak – Trump, and Bayrock, have been working closely with some third parties, namely the Georgian-born Tamir Sapir and Kazakhstani Tevfik Ari and formed a new joint company Bayrock/Sapir Organization, LLC. Guess what? That company has been accused of grand scale fraud. Oh, and guess what else? That company was the developer behind Trump SoHo, the hotel condiminium Trump bought into for nearly 20% back in 2005. Soviet/Russian-ties confirmed. Nice.

But it keeps getting better, this is the proverbial ketchup on the steak. Remember Rudy Giulliani? Sure you do, top lawyer, former mayor of New York and current advisor to the Trump Administration. Well guess what the legal company backing Trump’s Bayrock is called? Bracewell & Giulliani…
And guess what else? ZEMBLA has access to the communications between Bracewell & Giulliani and several dark figures in the former USSR. And I really do mean dark – people that embezzled hundreds of millions, people that were fugitives and had fraudulent government roles supporting controversial regimes. These people have worked with, and are directly tied to, Donald J. Trump."


Trump money laundering in the Netherlands: Paper trail could be the end - DutchReview

So you see this is complicated and takes time. Trump knows what he did or did not do. If nothing, let them continue and then say.....see I told you...but it is complicated. He has been dirty his entire life

This is from todays news....

"A web of agencies and committees is investigating Moscow’s interference in the 2016 presidential election—and any possible ties to the Trump campaign."

Good reading and you may understand why according to some sources, Trump is in a panic because they are getting close.

This is complicated and will not end soon, because the WH keeps sticking their nose in.....see Nunez....see his total and complete anger at Comey for not supporting his claim of being bugged.