I am shocked and embarassed at what is happening to our country.

You profess to want to discuss political and issues confronting our country yet you spend time rehashing the last 8 years and the last election......both over for months.

We have problems in the arab world right now, in case you had not notice.

We have terrorist problems in Europe.

We are fast approaching a terrible budget crisis.

Obama care is about to collapse and NO replacement for it looms.

Our reputation in the world is simply ludicrous and we have lost any leadership in the world.

Our entire democracy is under attack starting with the presidency but not excluding our justice system (see Jeff Sessions and firings galore of invetigators)

We have no idea when to believe our sitting President.

We now have, esp after the most recent shutting down any oversight requests from the Democrats (NEVER happened in history)

I am trying to stay middle of the road and not veer too far left or right but it is a bit skewed....

Point is.....all of this and this forum is all about little jokes, instead of serious discussion on serious issues. We are always, well some are, professing on here how serious the terrorist issue is yet we ignore what is or might be happening to defeat that terrorism in the world.

We make jokes......we choose either Comey or Trump and compare a career proven liar to a patriot who served this country with honor.

Sandtrap started a thread about how this forum has deteriorated and the last few days have simply underlined what he said.

The lack of thinking and even caring on this forum is simply amazing. I am not suggesting my side or yours is right or wrong, but we do not even try to discuss it on here. This is like a bunch of 7th graders simply playing.

If there are any responses, they will prove my point