Originally Posted by Guest

You mixed COST of medical care (in Canada) versus Premium cost(in USA) in your first post. The COST (doctor charges, hospital charges, prescription charges) is pretty much determined by the "market" in that particular area. So, a similar condition in one part of the country costs different than in another part of the country. See: Medical Costs Vary Wildly Around The Country : Shots - Health News : NPR

Most other countries have STANDARDIZED tests and procedures, and they have also negotiated drug costs, so their COSTS are lower than the charges in the US. Most western countries have as good or better outcomes as well. See:21 graphs that show America’s health-care prices are ludicrous - The Washington Post



Most doctors will get the "standardized" payment for their services (just like Medicare now) and I would like to see verifiable facts regarding your claim that the quality of doctors has dropped a LOT due to lowered standards and quotas for minorities. That sounds like just a racist bigot rant.



Actually, the prices are NOT set, the pharm companies have the ability to charge and/or increase the prices on any and all of their medications.....recent examples are the EPI-pen, and many others: https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthew.../#30d9cba871f5
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/20/the-d...ort-shows.html



If you reduce the $14,000 by taking it out of insurance companies' hands, their expenses incurred in advertising, administration, CEO enormous salaries, dividends to stockholders, makes the REAL COST closer to the $6000/person/year that it has been estimated for people in the USA.
By paying the $6,000 through taxation, because of the graduated tax structure of the US, some people will automatically pay less because of their incomes, while others will pay more, but the savings is real.



You are correct that it is an economic issue, but your analysis of the non-working poor, is in error. Non-working poor would use Medicaid which is separate....

Originally Posted by Guest

Apparently, successes like Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden and others are not among those countries that happen to be closer to our society, but you mention failures that cannot be at all comparable. Facts of your claims about Medicaid need to be seen to substantiate your claim, but since you have none, like most Trumpsters, keep ranting away.....Attachment 70274